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Every once in a while, Romney will stand up and do the bare minimum.
swoons in Mormon
True but it’s almost always too late to matter though..
I don't think people get that this difference makes a difference. As a millennial going through college during the GW Bush years, there was at least a Republican party that cared about America, cared about non political government institutions and the service those members participate in, etc. Since the tea party that shit changed. And I don't think it's hard to believe Mitt Romney actually cares about this country and means what he says on this thing. I feel disgusted defending Romney, but I kind of miss it when it was guys like Romney were the political opponents in power and not these MAGA folks hellbent on destroying democracy and politicizing the institutions critical to America.
I mean, I was going through college when GW Bush was elected, and here's what I remember:
Everyone lying about GW Bush being the "first Spanish-speaking President" (he spoke no Spanish at all), the first of many lies meant to cover up his manifest incompetence and intellectual incapability
Republicans shutting the government down for weeks at a time
A maniac, entirely fictitious scandal invented solely to hamper Al Gore's election prospects (the White House phones scandal)
What was different about that day's Republican Party than today's? We knew less about it, was all.
The thing that I dont think a lot of people like to recognize is that GW Bush had both some of the highest and lowest approval ratings. For months immediately after his approval rating was like 90 percent. Dems are also responsible for going to war then, even if they weren't the party in control.
But the thing is republicans did hold institutions, agencies, and administrative government orgs in higher esteem and weren't trying to destroy and purge. That's very different than trump. There's a difference between Mitt Romneys of the. GOP and the Jim Jordans who have never passed their own legislation and instead only focus on dismantling government and going on witch hunts.
I think the other thing you need to look at is how other elected officials speak about working with him. There's what you say in the public light, and then there's the work that actually gets done.
Also, didn't Romney kind of quietly champion universal healthcare in MA? And despite his own views, accept state Supreme Court rulings to provide gay marriage licenses? This guy actually cared about governing.
Also 2 unnecessary wars. Iraq causing the US to lose focus in Afghanistan. Republicans steered the Medicare part D BS and Bush signed it. The economy melting down then they blamed Obama. Then they questioned Obama’s citizenship. Before that was Reagan racking up debt, and raising taxes all while “states rights” was used as cover for institutional racism.
Republicans have always been dog shit.
Yes, but they never would have sold us out completely to China or Russia. Their goals were power and grift, but they weren't willing to destroy the country to do so.
As bad as they were, Trump is likely worse.
It's a progression, though. They turned up the heat slowly so people wouldn't notice how they're being boiled alive. Romney isn't a Tea Party/MAGAt like the rest, but he had no problem catering to them during his 2012 bid for the Presidency and he was part of the establishment that paved the way for the extremists. He can afford to distance himself now that he's retiring, but he didn't listen when we warned about the rise of extremism in his party. It's too late to earn our respect for acknowledging it now.
Yup those fucking hanging ballots could have given Algore in Florida. In general the world would be better
"But not Biden so probably Trump but I will have my fingers crossed when I be a hypocrite and Jebus will forgive me." - Rich white guy
But… he voted for Biden.
This thread is the epitome of low information D voters parroting the R=bad line. Romney was one of that last reasonable republicans left.
Yeah…. His usual ethical-adjacent stance. He won’t support the awful but the moderately better are just fine. The pinnacle of GOP integrity is still pathetic.
I don't know. Is DeSantis moderately better?
Lol moderately? He's basically the villian in It Can't Happen Here
It's genuinely surprising how low the bar is for a Republican to be considered ethical - refusing to vote in the guy who literally tried to pull a coup on your country shouldn't even be an ethical stance, it should be the stance of literally everyone
But... But... Trans people
Seriously tho G W Bush ran on Gays are getting married oh no! And rode that to state and local wins even before 9/11 happened
Sounds vaguely like an ethical stance, except DeSantis is still ok for him.
The arc of Mitt Romney's universe is long and flexes back and forth, but it bends towards sanity
Sen. Mitt Romney Says He Would Vote For 'Virtually' Anybody Other Than Trump or Ramaswamy
Remember, politicians are often masters at parsing their words; there's a big difference between "would" and "will".
Edit: Also remember Romney was a chronic flip-flopper; don't expect that to change.
Romney will not vote for Trump under any circumstances and isn’t shy about it*
Romney isn't a politician anymore. That's why I think this carries more weight. He can say what he wants and doesn't have to worry about job security of appealing to the base.
Also, read the article. This is about the Republican primary. He can vote for folks near term still R. But he alluded to that in a general if it's trump, he'd probably vote Biden.
But "the others that are running are acceptable to me and I'd be happy to vote for them," Romney told "Person to Person's" Norah O'Donnell when asked which candidates he "liked" in the GOP field.
$100 he still votes trump in the end.
What odds are you giving? Because honestly I'd take that bet. Mitt fucking despises Trump.
Id bet against you. You think a retired politician would publicly go against his old party but privately do the opposite? Also, this article is mostly about the GOP primary. Read the article, not just the headline.
Who the fuck is Ramaswany
He is an anything goes martial artist that, due to the curse of the drowned maiden, transforms into a teenage girl when exposed to cold water.
Never seen the show, but is this a Ranma reference?
Not who you replied to, but im just gonna say yes.
“Yes.”
The most annoying guy at the Republican debates that no one is watching. He’s 5% in the GOP polls and is basically the adult version of the insufferable kid that got way too into high school debate team.
Fucking asshole helped create this problem. Fuck Romney. Fuck every traitor republican.
True, but I still think it's good to see a little bit of reason coming back here and there. I welcome it.
is there a virtual person he would vote for
that spanish AI model maybe?
Mitt looks like the villain in an 80s comedy movie and feels like a guy who says what people tell him to say.
IMHO this is just telling people the Mormon church doesn't support those guys.
"Virtually* as in not literally because he will actually vote for any religious fascist bullshit for real...
You and me both buddy, now do everything you can to convince the fleeting numbers of sane folks in your party to do the same.