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[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 65 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This is unironically how i judge if someone is a decent person. It costs you nothing, and requires minimum effort, and yet most people I meet just can't be bothered. I don't even work in retail, nor have I ever, but it just annoys the hell outta me that people are that inconsiderate. It's not like Sam Walton himself is asking you to put the cart away for him. When you don't do it some minimum wage employee has to chase them down. You're not better than them. You're capable of doing the minimal task asked of you.

As previously stated, I've met way to many people like this. Pox on the Earth. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

[–] Voyajer@lemmy.world 54 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (12 children)

Reminds me of shopping cart theory.

[–] Advocado@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Words of wisdom right there.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's gotta be the only decent thing to ever come out of 4chan

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[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

No one will kill you, but I might call you a cunt-muffin to your face. And you can't even complain to anyone about it because when you tack muffin on the end it sounds sort of cute and you sound like even more of a cunt-muffin for complaining. Ya cunt-muffin.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Caveat: Do not use that word in America unless you intend a fist fight.

My Pilipino wife asked the other day, "What is C U N T?"

"It's a pussy, and don't use it."

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

I don't think anyone will confront you about such things where I live or where anon lives. So there isn't even that incentive. Someone might look at you disapprovingly, but more likely they're just condemning you in private without showing it.

One incentive used to be to get your money back, but nowadays many are unlocked.

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[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I used to work in retail, and I looked forward to doing cart-cleanup because it meant I'd have a few minutes where I didn't have to deal with customers but I was still getting paid. Returning shopping carts was the least stressful part of my day and I wished I could do it more.

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 23 points 10 months ago
[–] hrimfaxi_work@midwest.social 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I worked at grocery stores for 7 years in my late teens and early 20s. People who don't use cart corrals deserve nothing.

[–] Thranduil@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

They deserve a fine

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 17 points 10 months ago (6 children)

They say that it's the ultimate test of selflessness, because it doesn't benefit you and there's no recognition for it.

But does it cancel out the selflessness if I'm now thinking that every time I return a cart? "If someone sees me, they'll know how selfless I am..."

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 11 points 10 months ago (4 children)

That's why shopping carts in Germany are coin operated.

You only get your coin back, if you return the cart.

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I made a bypass tool so I can know that when I return them it's due to moral superiority and not base greed.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I take the ones people haven't bothered to lock back in. My moral superiority knows no bounds.

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago

Oh yeah? well!

Sometimes I round them all up, take the coins, and donate them anonymously to orphans with cancer.

[–] MarcomachtKuchen@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

While that is true they seem to die out. Older Shops still have the but during modernisation works, they usually get swapped out

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[–] Advocado@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

It's a paradox for sure. I have this exact thought everytime I do something I think of as morally good. Then I'm bashing myself for thinking that way, and then I wonder if I need to become a monk or something to completely rid myself of that initial thought. Then I forget about it until it happens again.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I had a teacher in highschool that presented the philosophical argument that no one ever does anything that is truly selfless. The argument was exactly what you mentioned, that if someone is doing something that appears selfless, they're actually doing it in hopes that someone notices and thinks more highly of them.

This would have been an interesting rebuttal to the argument. If you return a shopping cart in an empty parking lot, does that make you selfless? Kind of like a modern version of a tree falling in a forest...

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

i don't think true selflessness exists, but i also think that is completely and utterly irrelevant.

Everything is fundamentally fueled by selfishness, but it seems to be a fundamental truth of the universe that cooperation is optimal for an individual if they can achieve it.

for example cooperation is the thing that allows us and animals like ants to be so hilariously more successful than other species, and on an ecosystem level everyone is cooperating since their chemical structures are compatible. If something were to evolve to use mirrored sugar (which is incompatible with the version of sugar molecules we use) then they'd have nothing but themselves to eat and thus promptly starve.

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[–] MrNesser@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So do I if I want my money back

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sadly Aldis in my location has a terrible selection so it's barely worth shopping there most days

[–] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

German or American? I've always wondered how the German Aldi Süd compares to what we got in the US. Does Aldi Süd have the aisle of shame? They've got Aldi Christmas sweaters next week, it's so weird.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

They’ve got Aldi Christmas sweaters next week

Don't know about Aldi but Lidl branded clothes are some peak ironic fashion. Fucking Lidl christmas sweaters, it's beyond hilarious

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[–] veroxii@aussie.zone 3 points 10 months ago

Aisle of glory you mean?

[–] DerpyPlayz18@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] nuez_jr@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

Bless your heart.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

I think that was just Paris

[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

I’m sorry for your affliction.

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago

I argue that empathy, and the sympathy and compassion that flow from it, are the only things a person can be rightly judged by. It matters not one's wealth, race, skill, ambition, charm, etc. Those are nice to have and can make life easier, but they don't make a person better or worse. It only matters that they care about others, and anyone that cares about others and acts like it is a great person even if mistakes have been made.

If you think you're a loser because you don't have a girl/boyfriend and live with your parents or something but you care about others, you are a far greater person than Elon Musk, Bill Gates, or anyone like that to be certain.

[–] pirating@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You need to check out the cart narcs on YouTube!! They record themselves calling people out on not returning their carts, and the petty reactions from the lazy bones. They even have hood magnets for the unrepentant!! https://youtube.com/@CartNarcs

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They've gotten some pretty unpleasant reactions, too. Like guns pulled on them.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago

And those people should not have guns.

[–] Soggytoast@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago

I bring loose carts into the store on my way in, usually don't use a cart since I bring bags

[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] theblueredditrefugee@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I still feel bad about the one time I didn't return a shopping cart.

A creepy guy was hitting on me and wouldn't take no for an answer, didn't feel safe to go anywhere but in my car and the fuck out of there.

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

That's on the dude, not you. As a larger guy who has never not returned a cart in his life, I'd have done the same lmao

[–] jadedwench@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

It wasn't until I moved and had a Wegmans that I pretty much never see a cart outside of their sheds. The couple times I have seen it was at the "entitled rich people" location. Wegmans has enough cart returns around that you have absolutely no excuse. They even put the reserved spots for pregnant and those with children right next to the returns so it is easier for them.

[–] explodicle@local106.com 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Grocery store owner: "Looks like customer altruism is ramping up again, time to lay off some more employees!"

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If they could find a way to apply the same "self checkout" solution to cart return, you know they would in a heartbeat!

[–] PainInTheAES@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Self driving carts, probably too expensive

[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Ah the good ol shopping cart litmus test

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Putting the cart in the corral is a little pleasure for me if there aren't too many carts in it. I stand back a little and push it in and watch it go with glee like a small child.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Better than crack.

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