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[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 192 points 1 year ago (4 children)

"This don't feel like a victory today, bro," Bannon said, observing how Johnson's office had directed all incoming calls to voicemail after voting took place. "When 209 Hakeem Jeffries-loving Democrats vote for something, it just doesn't feel like a victory. I'm not feeling victorious right now. I kind of got this righteous indignation."

And there it is. It's not about governing, it about ensuring that your team is beating the other team. Doesn't matter that the government is avoiding a shutdown and essential government functions will continue to keep people alive, safe, employed, etc, because the other team voted for it, it must be bad.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 87 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also, nothing about Steve Bannon is righteous. He's a piece of dog shit in the shape of a human.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And just barely that shape, if we're being honest.

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Bannon is starting to look like that cockroach wearing a dead guy as a skin suit from Men in Black.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago

Sugar water!

[–] swab148@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's got a brand new Eddie suit

[–] WookieMonster@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] swab148@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How did I get that wrong? I've only seen that movie like 30 times...

[–] netburnr@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Maybe they used the flashy thing on you too many times.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

That's floating in bottom-shelf-of-the-basement gin.

[–] ramchak@lemmy.ca 63 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hakeem Jeffries-loving Democrats

Pretty sure he meant to say the N-word instead of Hakeem Jeffries

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also, nobody* loves Jeffries. It's his turn according to the congresswoman whose allies still control all committee assignments and who's still one of the most effective solicitors of the legal bribes they depend on, so the rest just have to go along with it.

*except maybe an owner donor or two.

[–] hansl@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Citation needed. All democrats are rallying behind him so he must at least be tolerated by the majority of the party.

[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's exactly his point, tolerated, not loved

[–] hansl@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That’s fine. I don’t love most of my coworkers and my bosses. I tolerate and respect them, though. I don’t see why that’s a positive or negative to want to share a hotel room when traveling with your speaker.

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

It's interesting that it's all about how he "feels", nothing to do with facts, logic, context, or any consideration of the effects on the people who live in the U.S.

Sensitive motherfucker, isn't he?

[–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

You didn't hear? Politics is football now.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 76 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Turns out, it's not so easy to start a fascist theocracy with democracy still in place.

[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago

Never stop reminding people that this exists.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

That's why they're dismantling democracy.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He really didn''t avert a shutdown, he just delayed it a bit. House Republicans failed to pass a rule to consider the Commerce-Justice-Science spending bill.

Vote was 198-223.

When thinking about next year and the prospects for a spending bill, keep in mind that House Republicans cannot pass party-line rules on GOP spending bills.

This means next year Democrats will again be needed since the numbers can't change by rule.

Johnson painted himself into a corner.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't you mean bought himself a year?

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The first part of the budget will expire January 19, the second February 2. Not that far away.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That's when the budget expires not Johnson's speakership.

[–] Additional_Prune@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

The MAGAts and people like Bannon want to destroy the government. They say "deep state" and "administrative state," but they mean any semblance of government that isn't the fascist dictatorship that they want. Government for them and not for anybody who isn't them. Liberals, Democracts, college professors, feminists, LGBT, immigrants (excluding those who fit their very narrow ideological parameters), etc., all get labeled unpersons and you can guess what happens next. Steve Bannon has reportedly called himself a Leninist. Lenin is responsible the for the deaths of millions of Russians. (Estimates vary.)

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

It amazes me that this guy scammed MAGA donors out of millions with his fake build the wall scheme, received a presidential pardon for it, and still is seen as a source of authority by conservatives.

[–] starbreaker@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

I'm curious to see how the the Klansmen in Congress will punish Mike Johnson. My money is on newly-discovered "evidence" that Johnson's been cavorting with underage rent boys.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

It's a win for the American people and for competent government. Small wonder it doesn't feel like a win for the MAGA agents saboteurs. They've proudly declared themselves enemies of competent governance and stability. They are, after all, all domestic terrorists

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Good, cry more. If they’re all sad and angry that someone took action for a bipartisan solution after months of their unmoving BS, they deserve it.

[–] quicklime@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Agreed, but that might be missing the significance of the moment somewhat. It apparently only takes Bannon and a small handful of other unreasonably influential voices on the right to send Congress even further into chaos and dysfunction, making the passing of one current bill a comparatively tiny relief.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I’m not missing anything here.

[–] quicklime@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

ok, that's great!