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[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 187 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Yikes, when did we become the majority workforce demographic?

But seriously, 72 million working people don't even account for 5% of wealth... What a broken fucking system.

[–] ReallyKinda@kbin.social 71 points 1 year ago

Google says there are about 160M employed people in the US, so 72M is roughly 45% of the workforce. Vs 5% of the wealth. crazy.

[–] Pohl@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It’s fashionable to boil everything down to class warfare but this struggle is generational in a way that seems important. It’s probably not even fair to look at this like a systemic problem. We have an older generation that is fighting with everything they have to prevent power and wealth flowing to their children’s cohort. That’s not just “capitalism”. That is a unique pathology. I struggle to see analogs in history of this sort of thing.

[–] danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And people wonder why I have such an issue with so many 80 year olds being in power. This is why.

[–] Pohl@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

It’s like the country can’t even imagine a younger person being credible for the jobs anymore. No matter where you are on the political spectrum, America has an 80yr old man for you to vote for!

[–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

It's amazing how many laws and initiatives where put in place to help Boomers and older generations succeed in life and how they slowly stripped everything away after they benefited from it.

[–] rchive@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Sort of an extension of the constantly growing period of adolescence. Boomers don't think Gen X and Millennials will do it right, so they hold onto power.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Broken? It's operating as intended.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Sabin10@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The millennial equivalent to 1997 is about 5vor 6 years ago and there are more of them than us gen xers. They're definitely worse off with a proportionally higher cost of living.

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[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 82 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Maybe unchecked capitalism was a bad idea...

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, we obviously just need to give billionaires more money. How can we expect them to create wealth without more money?!

[–] Hotdogman@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It'll trickle any moment now...

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ronald Reagan when he looks up and sees the piss on his grave trickle down to hell:

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 17 points 1 year ago

It's people like him that make me wish hell was real.

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[–] PatFussy@lemm.ee 66 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I remember hearing or reading somewhere that Zuckerberg constitutes 2% of all millennial wealth.

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Normally I'd say eat the rich, but I'm already full of microplastics.

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[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 61 points 1 year ago (12 children)

The "greatest generation" never retired. They worked themselves into the grave, and left everything to their entitled boomer kids while running all social welfare programs into the ground.

Now the boomers are flush with cash and collecting social security that we will never see and the last of the pensions that we will never see.

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[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Baby Boomers: $78.1 / 53%

Generation X: $46.0 / 28%

Millennials: $13.3 / 6%

Source

[–] TryingToEscapeTarkov@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gen X: Y'all are getting money?

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wasn't until my mid forties. Finally making money.

[–] lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Basically same. Except I don't make ahmazing money, I just was lucky enough to buy a condo in 2010 so I have a low mortgage and great interest rate then finally started making acceptable wages around 40. I'd starve if I had to move out of this place but for my cost of living I make good money.

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[–] rustymitt@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol'd at "Millennials have a predilection for real estate assets, where they spend 37% of their fortune"

It's not that real estate prices are over inflated, we millennials just prefer spending more on housing.

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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Good news, that's the real trickle down economics, inheritances!

But on a more serious note, it's not that good a comparison, what we need to check is what % of the wealth the previous generations controlled at this point in their history (when the generation was in its mid twenties to early forties) because they too were the biggest workforce without owning most of the wealth, that's just how things go, you accumulate wealth over time, they have decades ahead of us. They surely owned more than we do now, but it's certainly not as big a difference.

In the end what I'm seeing is just another piece to divide those at the bottom so they don't pay attention to the people that truly own a disproportionate amount, like Zuckerberg that owns 2% of the millennial's wealth. This guy is 0.000000003% of US's population and owns close to 0.1% of its population's wealth.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That inheritance money that people keep mentioning is going straight to exploitative elder care, I promise. We will hardly see a dime. Source: My dad is older than the boomers and was a white collar worker. I've seen the receipts.

Not only that, the boomers are just starting to go into those systems, so it's pretty obvious that there are opportunists within the industry salivating for this impending cash cow. Once the boomers enter the system in larger numbers, costs across the board are going to skyrocket as well (rapid expansion costs money, baby) with cascading and anti human effects that ripple across other parts of life just like all of the other venture capital unregulated bullshit (something something stonks in elder care to the moon). Venture capital will factory farm your parents for every penny they have left.

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[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Ya that sounds about right. I fucking have to claw and fight for everything and I still end up living a fraction of what my parents had at the same age.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I was born during an absolute boom int he economy. Late '80s and '90s were awesome. '90s were fantastic, just fucking pumping.

I'm working my balls off and putting money into an IRA that I watch essentially disappear every day. I have 529s for my kids that are in the negative returns. I have plans to put an addition on my home that I'll never do, because a 180 square foot addition shouldn't cost 75% of what I paid for the house in 2014. And the crazy thing is I'm a lucky one. It is just sad, and I'm not sure there is an end in sight without some sort of massive reset.

[–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh La La look at Mister Fancy pants over here owning a house. I bet you eat and shower everyday in you ivory tower too like your the fucking king of France or something huh.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I bet they wash their ass with a bidet instead of toilet paper! Bourgeoisie!

[–] ohitsbreadley@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Hey, if you're fortunate enough to have access to a toilet, you too can have a bidet. The toilet seat adapter kind can be had for around $30. Not nothing, but also not bank breaking.

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[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 year ago

This just in: we're fucked! Back to you Chet.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And I hear half of that is just Zuckerberg

[–] Chetzemoka@startrek.website 20 points 1 year ago

No, he has 2% of that 4.6% and people are just bad at understanding how percentages work.

https://minnesotareformer.com/2021/08/11/millennials-are-the-largest-workforce-and-the-least-wealthy-why-politics/#:~:text=Millennials%20today%20own%20just%204.6,2%25%20of%20all%20Millennial%20wealth.

Not that one individual having a full 2% of the wealth of an entire generation is a great thing.

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

In fact, while the 1% of the luckiest Americans have a combined net worth of $ 34.2 trillion, the poorest 50%, about 165 million people, own only $ 2.08 trillion, or the 1.9% of the total wealth accumulated by Americans.

To do the math, this means that the average American in the poorest 50% has $12,600. Meanwhile, the average 1%-er has over $10 million.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fun, so when they told us, "you can be anything" that was just condescension because these bitches were dead set on destroying the environment and pillaging all the wealth.

Bet, they will also be the generation to leave their inheritance to Barron Trump or some dumb shut.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can't wait for our parents and grandparents to fucking die.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I believe most millennials are out of grandparents at this point

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, I haven't been treading water for about five years now. Just accepted it and sank to the bottom.

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What percent of the guns do we control?

[–] agissilver@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Was this written by AI and then poorly copy edited?

His interest in equities, for example, is much more limited, directing only $ 580,000 million to these purposes, about 6.3% of his total wealth.

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Let us assume that millennials make up 1/5 of the population, and let us also assume that 1/5 are zoomers not making money. The other 3/5 are the older generations.

First, let's assume that every generation, you work at a fixed rate and save a fixed ammount after expenses: X. Since millennials were kids prior to this, they have saved just X in their lifetimes. The next fifth would have saved X+X=2X, the next one would be 3X, and finally those in retirement 4X. The total amount of money over the 5 groups would be 1+2+3+4= 10X, which if X was 4.6%, would account for 46% of the wealth.

But wait! As you get older, you earn more and the money you save (like houses) increase in value. So after a generation that X saved is cX and then c^2X in 2 generations and c^3 in three.

So 100=(c^3+2c^2+3c+4)X, if X is 4.6, c is 1.8, so every generation your earning potential increase by 80%. Which is obviously wrong, but I just like doing math.

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