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How to tell you are running a cartel, step #1:
Internet providers say the FCC should not investigate broadband prices
And that's exactly why broadband prices should be investigated.
Make internet access a utility and be done with it.
Seriously. Why is this taking so long!? It’s painfully obvious!
I $$$$ honestly $$$$ have $$$$ not $$$$ a $$$$ single $$$$ idea $$$$ why $$$$ either.
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In my native country gigabit fiber internet is less than $9/mo. Broadband prices in the US are absolutely ridiculous.
50€ for 1000/1000 here. My employer covers it.
46€ for the same here.
30€ if I can do with 1000/100 instead, which most people could.
I pay $110 for 2000/2000 fiber. In the US.
I pay $110 for 300mbs down 10 mbs up, in New York City. I have routine fantasies about what the board of my ISP deserves.
49€ here, but yeah about 1/10 of the price of some US states is insane.
30€/m for 2x2.5Gb
I pay Comcast $130 for 1000/35
Just Internet, no bundles.
you can get the same internet speed for like 10$ in Ukraine. of 4$ for symmetrical 100mbps fiber connection
Not to defend those shitbags, but population density plays a large part in infrastructure cost. source
Granted, they've alco received enormous subsidies without intending to fulfill their obligations, but still, it's a significant factor. This country is quite large. I can drive 4h in nearly any direction and still be in state lines. Most of that is farm land.
This is one of the reasons why this should be nationalized because rural areas are still either unserved or underserved by broadband because the cost/benefit analysis doesn't favor the provider enough.
That said, prices are higher than they should be even taking density into account (strictly my opinion). Gigabit fiber should actually be about $15/mo for all regions, (my SWAG*) but the infrastructure just is not there yet. The biggest challenge being the "last mile".
*Sophisticated wild-ass guess
Don’t let them tell you it’s the lack of density that is the problem. I live in a major US city with high density, and there is only one provider that offers actual broadband at my address (~$100/mo for 500Mb/s service). The “competition” wants me to pay $50/mo for 20 Megabit DSL.
My three year old often says "Dad don't look!" When he does that, I know for a fact he's doing something he shouldn't be doing.
The title alone is a great reason to investigate broadband prices.
Good thing broadband providers have such a stellar track record of nothing but honorable and consumer-benefiting behavior. I see no reason that we can't just trust that they have our best interests at heart.
If any business tells the government that it should not look to closely into it's practices, then you know that there is something that needs to be brought to the light and corrected.
It’s like a teenager telling their mom she doesn’t need to check the browser history
Criminal doesn't want to be investigated.
Yup. Totally not a suspicious thing to say...
I agree, the FCC shouldn't waste time investigating broadband prices. Just nationalize them. And the rest of infrastructure.
According to Marx, the capitalist will always dismiss all other concerns than their own gain, and will lie and murder for their ill-gotten gains.
The 21st century teems of examples
This week's Behind the Bastards (about the capture of Christianity by capitalism) tells about the exact same thing in the 1930s and 1940s (parallel with the rise of fascism). The same give us all the money push was happening tgen as now, only now the campaign is bigger.
Fuck these guys. They're no better than nineteenth century railroad tycoons
Edit 2024-01-14: Markup.
Yeah, same podcast made the point in their episodes about the Hawk's Nest Tunnel Project, and how it was recent history even though it sounds like some medieval horror story. These fucks haven't changed, and the same company that profited off that brutality is still around and still making money hand over fist and never reckoned with their crimes.
I say that if corporations have the benefits of personhood, they should also have the responsibilities and liabilities of a personhood. Kill 5 people due to clear negligence? Company comes under government control (prison) for the same amount of time as a regular person would for the same crime.
Kill hundreds? The company is dissolved and the responsible people are jailed.
Oh, and companies are represented by a random public defender from that jurisdiction.
That'd get some things fixed real quick.
They’re no better than nineteenth century railroad tycoons
It literally the same people or their descendants in most cases.
Serial killers say the FBI should stay out of their dark mysterious shed
Pay no attention to the piles of money behind the curtain!
"We promise not to eat any more faces," said a spokeswolf for the Wolves Eating Faces Corporation.
Don’t try that Jedi shit on me it doesn’t work.
Oh god the wipe transitions. I remember when the original trilogy was being remade into... I think the Gold version? I watched bts stuff and George was explaining how they'd added wipes to the scene transitions. Like, cool new CGI and all, but maybe adding wipes over the entire thing is kind of taking the piss.
shocking
🤣🤣😅😅😅🤣🤣🤣 Not biased at all. I have a $20 price lock on spectrum ATM, but as soon as that ends I'm going to say goodbye and get 5G because I'm not paying $50 for fixed internet they have a monopoly in the area I've moved to.
"Trust me, the cheese is fine"- Mouse assigned to guard the cheese
Methinks the corporation doth protest too much.
I say the same thing to the police about my drugs
This is the best summary I could come up with:
In 2021, Congress required the Federal Communications Commission to issue rules "preventing digital discrimination of access based on income level, race, ethnicity, color, religion, or national origin" within two years.
FCC Chairwoman Jessica Rosenworcel last month released her draft plan to comply with the congressional mandate and scheduled a November 15 commission vote on adopting final rules.
Carr described Rosenworcel's proposal as "President Biden's plan to give the administrative state effective control of all Internet services and infrastructure in the US."
In a meeting with Rosenworcel's staff, cable company executives "stated that the Draft Order would impose overbroad liability standards that impede further broadband investment and are legally vulnerable by adopting a disparate impact rather than a disparate treatment liability approach," according to an ex parte filing submitted yesterday by cable lobby group NCTA-The Internet & Television Association.
The cable companies said the FCC "should define digital discrimination as disparate treatment and should limit the standard to policies and practices involving the deployment of broadband network facilities.
"Commission evaluation of price is unnecessary in the competitive wireless marketplace and may deter offering discounts and enticements to switch providers that consumers enjoy today."
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🪓🪓🪓Just one small problem, Ben! Switch providers to who? Fucking Aquaman?!?
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