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I don't really use facebook anymore so couldn't care less; but so happened to log in today to change my password and saw this on my front page.

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[–] downpunxx@kbin.social 356 points 11 months ago (9 children)

Ad Blocking is Cyber Security, never ever let anyone convince you differently

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 144 points 11 months ago (17 children)

if ads were just static PNGs with a link you went to if you clicked I wouldn't have ever bothered. but ads became a major malware and tracking risk so plugging that security hole became mandatory.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I tried finding that website, but I can't remember what it is. I've seen it use the static image advertisement. It changed on each reload too.

But yes, that website had last update somewhere in the early 2000s.

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[–] monsterpiece42@reddthat.com 53 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

It's true. I work in a computer shop and we see literally thousands and thousands of dollars lost from people clicking on ads that look like normal buttons (things like "Download", "Next", etc). And not just the elderly either. Everyone has a a combination of inputs to get scared and comply. Folks that are otherwise extremely competent and savvy can get scammed too.

The best security you can have online is adblockers, only beaten by using trusted websites.

Edit, fair points with sites being slimy these days. I meant using legitimate versions of websites rather than copy/fake websites designed to steal credentials.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

I dunno', the way Google themselves have served vulnerable ads, it might be true that ad blocking is more important than using "trustworthy" sites.

[–] hstde@feddit.de 20 points 11 months ago (4 children)

But what websites can you trust these days?

YouTube? Serves up scammy bitcoin ads. Google? Places ads as "search results" Twitter?

Maybe that one website unchanged since 1998.

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[–] viking@infosec.pub 32 points 11 months ago

Definitely. Ads are eye cancer at best, and infiltration channels for malware at worst. Compromised ad networks pumping out executable code via javascript (or back in the days, Flash) are still a major source of trojan infections.

[–] Teon@kbin.social 28 points 11 months ago (3 children)

And just to add to your important point, Ad Blockers are really Content Blockers. They allow the user to delete annoyances that have nothing to do with advertising. We should all start calling them Content Blockers.

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[–] reflex_aliens@lemmy.ml 155 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Seems like a feature to me.

[–] purple@lemm.ee 76 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh yeah aunt Greta, I’m still friends with you, but it’s so weird how I can’t see your anti vax “facts”

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 11 months ago

That's the government censorship!

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I took a peek at my feed for the first time in years. It's all junk lol, no one I care about is posting anything

The only thing worth seeing is my local Buy Nothing group, but there are other services popping up which do something similar.

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[–] CheshireSnake@iusearchlinux.fyi 152 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Your ad blocker is blocking posts from friends

Thank fucking god

[–] Ronnie@lemmy.ca 39 points 11 months ago (2 children)

My Facebook is hardly even friends these days. It's basically ads, suggested posts, and posts in groups. Maybe because none of my friends really post anymore, I dunno.

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[–] CJOtheReal@lemmy.sdf.org 86 points 11 months ago (9 children)

Ok but who the fuck uses Facebook?

[–] yoz@aussie.zone 28 points 11 months ago (3 children)
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[–] figaro@lemdro.id 20 points 11 months ago

There are a few countries where Facebook is still pretty popular. The Philippines, for example

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[–] M500@lemmy.ml 73 points 11 months ago (11 children)

Other than YouTube, I’m basically off all of these centralized social media platforms and it feels great.

I do need to occasionally use Facebook for market place and messenger for contacting business.

Basically every business operates over messenger where I live.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 19 points 11 months ago

Yes same for me, whatsapp is pretty much the only "genuine" communication channel. I only keep a presence on facebook since I have to move countries frequently for work, and the "expats in $city" groups are quite helpful to find people, and then move the discussions off-platform :-)

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[–] plz1@lemmy.world 61 points 11 months ago

I find it quite dubious their claim of it blocking posts from friends, vs. ads. Friends don't post ads, so if it's blocking posts, they are inserting ads colored up as "friend posts".

[–] xenoclast@lemmy.world 57 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think people are underestimating how important the YouTube thing is.

If they succeed, the entire ad funded internet are going to clone what they do.

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[–] spudwart@spudwart.com 50 points 11 months ago (17 children)

So this is how it will start.

First it will be a back and forth war of Anti-adblockers vs Adblockers

Then when the Anti-Adblockers start to lose, which they will, then they'll come crying to various governments with massic PAC campaigns among other insane garbage about how "Adblockers are Piracy!" and that they need to be banned.

This will not end well.

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[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 49 points 11 months ago

LOL, if you block ads they'll hide a message from one of your friends that you never would have seen anyway because it would've been buried in ads.

I think this is good though. I think this is just what a lot of people need to get them off FB. I mean... have you tried surfing the www without an ad blocker? I'd rather not use the www.

[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 46 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Oh no, I have to stop using Facebook too? Holy shit I might get something done

You guys should implement that shit here on Lemmy too

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 45 points 11 months ago

Stop using Facebook.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 35 points 11 months ago

They ain’t my friends if they be posting ads.

[–] jacktherippah@lemmy.world 35 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (10 children)

Can anyone please get my country off Facebook and Messenger? Please?

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 35 points 11 months ago

I'd rather have some false positives than a single unblocked ad.

[–] RQG@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago (6 children)

I don't think any other site can do what YouTube is doing, because YouTube is almost impossible to replace and find an alternative to. If Facebook pulls this I'm out for good. The only reason I'm on there still is the 3 people who refuse to use anything else that I still care about.

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[–] random65837@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Of course they are, that's how they make their money. Can't understand the broken logic of anybody that's suprised by this, what is surprising is that anybody that cares about privacy would ever use Facebook.

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[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 31 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

It’s been for a long time but not overtly. (I’ve never used it, this is someone else’s screenshot)


Facebook splitting the word "Sponsored" to bypass adblockers – r/assholedesign

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 30 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

So they're essentially admitting that their advertisements are indistinguishable from your friend's posts which are the actual reason you visit the site in the first place. It doesn't matter anyway anymore. Facebook has buried friends list content among absolute bullshit you have zero desire to see. I visited a while ago and 99% of what I was shown was ridiculous groups I tried to block. But there are millions of them. You can block a thousand groups and there's 999 thousand more that are just like it, waiting to take their place. Facebook is supposed to have this super algorithm that determines what users want to see. If that's the case, why are they incapable of detecting that I am actively opposed to certain types of content? Maybe they think they're going to outrage me enough to engage on this bullshit? Nah, I'll just leave. Bye, fuck-faces.

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[–] yote_zip@pawb.social 30 points 11 months ago (7 children)

How does one block a post from a friend with an ad-blocker? Do some of your friends type like shills? Is Facebook making numbers up for fun?

[–] viking@infosec.pub 34 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's probably made-up garbage. If they knew my ad-blocker had actually blocked a friend, I'm sure they would have found a way not to get anything blocked.

Or alternatively they are now displaying some friend's posts on the same channel normally reserved for ad networks so they are indistinguishable via software? But then it should be way more than one, unless this is some early A/B testing crap.

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[–] Synthead@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

They probably are detecting your ad blocker, and choosing to block random posts as a strange kind of disciplinary behavior.

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[–] SteveDinn@lemmy.ca 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Facebook can get fucked. They offer even less to me than YouTube.

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[–] Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

lol what.. my feed is 80% ads, 15% group posts and maybe 5% friends

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[–] Kodemystic@lemmy.kodemystic.dev 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Ari-Zahavi227@kbin.social 25 points 11 months ago (2 children)
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[–] milo128@lemm.ee 24 points 11 months ago (4 children)

this is such an insidious way to stop people from using ad blockers. It's not like facebook isn't deliberately making sure these false positives happen.

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[–] ByroTriz@lemmy.ml 23 points 11 months ago

Good. Facebook should just die.

[–] moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Great for the internet! More people will install an adblocker (hopefully ublock origin).

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[–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It would be funny if the ad blocking community just ignored this, and focused on removing FB tracking on external sites.

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[–] tmmk@lemm.ee 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So all my “friends” are actually ads?

Guess I don’t need to use Facebook

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