It's sadly a global problem, not only in the western journalism. In some places, journalists risk their lives if they tell the truth that the economic and political powers do not like. The media therefore reflect the truth that suits a certain lobby. See Asange and others, but China isn't better, even censored and blocks media which don't reflect a positive opinion of the policy (The Great Firewall, part of The Golden Shield Project). https://www.comparitech.com/privacy-security-tools/blockedinchina/

[–] thetablesareorange@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

i wonder if when the EU bans twitter will we see people call it a "great firewall" or will we be instructed to cheer? as we are now safe from russian, chinese, muslim, etc propaganda

[–] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

When Germany banned RT a year ago there were only cheers to be heard from German libs. It wasn't censorship at all, since Germany has "freedom of opinion" you see, a freedom of opinion which only need be extended to those whose opinion isn't somehow construed as offensive.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Twitter? https://www.vpnmentor.com/blog/the-complete-list-of-blocked-websites-in-china-how-to-access-them/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Firewall

[–] thetablesareorange@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

https://www.rt.com/news/567447-twitter-ban-censorship-threat/

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It isn't a censure, if a web spread fake news and hate speech. Same if a web is closed because offering piracy soft or spread malware. That has nothing to do with censoring free speech. In China the police control the mobiles of the people, if they used not autorized apps. Not the same

https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/police-data-08212018111240.html

[–] thetablesareorange@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

radiofreeasia lol.... okay that was single instance by a single local official, its easy to delete an app on your phone, and if you think a $3 a month VPN turns you into James Bond...

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This are the VPN allowed in China 😂 Seriously, I am not defending the West, which is far from being a real democracy, but neither can I defend China with the current president, it is a dictatorship with obvious violations of human rights and censorship and surveillance that I would not want here. Communism is based on the sovereignty of the people and China is currently far from this, with the only sovereignty being that of its leader.

[–] thetablesareorange@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

so both sides same, but the left is always worse? is that the motto of the Julian Assange fan club? You wouldn't care about censorship in qatar, or el slavador because you're not really worried about them taking over the world and putting all the white christian men in cages or whatever like you think china and russia will. Even if I could show you that the US and EU had censorship ten times worse than China it wouldn't convince you the story is overblown exaggerated propaganda it would just convince you censorship is actually a good thing. So you're not even worried about censorship coming to america or the EU you're only using these stories to further a McCarthyistic cold war scare. It only exists to serve your propaganda, if I disprove it you'll just run off in search of something else. So its kind of pointless to discuss these things, and unfortunately I can't just demand that you explain your theories on why the reptilian space jews want to give us all windmill cancer and turn the frogs gay directly because you'll just pretend you have no clue what I'm talking about pretend to be insulted even though you know exactly what I'm talking about and aren't insulted at all.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Read my first post, where I speak of a GLOBAL problem in a capitalist world, where a small economic elite rules what rules. Dictatorship of money with different labels with more or less repression and manipulation. Different forms of more or less obvious feudalism, corrupt to the core.

[–] thetablesareorange@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

a small economic elite rules

you mean the space jews?

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Among some others. These are who make the laws, paying media and goverments

https://truththeory.com/10-corporations-secretly-rule-world-must-watch/

[–] thetablesareorange@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I see, and what is your final solution to this problem?

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Good question, I know what I can do on a personal level and with respect to close people, but given the inherent stupidity of a large part of the population, who believes what this nice man says on TV or the priest, a short-term solution term is going to be difficult. On the other hand we are getting closer, given the danger of a world war and rampant climate change, that this system by itself is going to fall, but unfortunately not necessarily in the way we would like.

[–] thetablesareorange@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

blaming global warming on space jews, and fear monerging about communists or whatever the CIA happens to hate this week, isn't going to help, if it's poor people or leftists its communist jews, if it's rich people its banker jews, so no matter what the conspiracy is real or not they will just say its the jews. Area 51 is run by the jews, the mafia is controlled by the jews, eventually you get to a point where all the worlds scientists and politicians are jews, or in league with the jews, and things like flat earth theory, or global warming being a hoax, become realistic, eventually every single news story is actually a distraction or false flag of somekind just a part of the jews plan, every war, every economic crisis, every cultural trend all the work of the space jews.... until finally you to start wondering, hey maybe Hitler wasn't such a bad guy

[–] agarorn@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't see your point on western journalism.

Reddit is known for reposting stuff. I can't make out where the last article is from. But the others are from the same day aren't they?

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

This isn't Reddit? They're clearly screenshots of news sites.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

I posted this because every time something happens in China, western and their serviles journos are like "It's falling down", like that extreme idiot Gordon Chang who is on it for 20 years and just changes the date every year.

And as we are now in the next round, i posted this to give some people a hint that it not only is exaggerated, but might be outright false in some cases. Very relevant to "world news" imo.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I just love how western media keeps talking up some sort of a collapse in China every few months, and people still fall for it. Like the last 1000 times turned out to be nonsense, but this time for sure!

It really shows how a lot of people in the west have a deep seated hate of China that's been bred into them by the media, and aren't able to even think about the subject critically.

[–] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

https://swprs.org/the-propaganda-multiplier/

[–] vitaminka@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

tf actually happened there with the tank? 👀

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They transcended the time and space multiple times (along with the buildings and the rest) to make libs feel tiny bit better about galloping costs of life in their neoliberal shitholes, of course.

[–] vitaminka@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

no, i mean the actual tank, wherever it was, what was it doing there?

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

No idea. One person on the original thread said they were getting back from some parade or drill moving by night to not disrupt the traffic much. Looking at the pics it don't look like a riot, nothing is destroyed, tanks are moving in a row, the lane is marked by tape, there is the guy with yellow vest apparently directing the traffic, and people around stands still taking photos.

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

How dare you bring logic into this propaganda and censorship free Western Christian server?! Those tanks are clearly in the process of exterminating Uyghur Tibetans in Taiwanese Hong Kong!!!1!!1!

[–] QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

What happened to the rule "No hate speech, bigotry, propaganda, etc"?

[–] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Pointing out western media's bigotry and bias against non-whites is hate speech?

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

In what way is this hate speech, bigotry, or propaganda?

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Idk, i see western journalism here all the time.

[–] QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

Oh the irony.