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[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If there’s one thing I’ve learned in the last ten years it is that I’ll never trust a political poll.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

A conservative plant will do that.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I think we will have a three way run for President between Biden ( D ), Haley ( R ), Trump ( I ) in November of 2024. Trump will be disqualified in most states preventing him from winning the Republican nomination. He will run independently splitting the right wing votes. Biden goes on to win 45 states.

[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Nope there is no way this is going to happen. So Trump's eligibility is going to hit the US Supreme Court. It is litigation on the Constitution itself with more or less zero case law around it. This is the kind of thing that every lawyer dreams of putting their name on. It will hit the US Supreme Court and they will take it. So he will be either eligible or ineligible in all 50 states it will not be ~~peace meal.~~ piecemeal

Now that doesn't mean that there won't be a major independent candidate for some other reasons, but not for this reason.

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago

It will go to the Supreme Court and they’ll rubber stamp so he can run.

[–] Kbin_space_program@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago

A hard-core blible thumping Trumper is speaker in congress. Unfortunately for everyone's sanity, he's not going anywhere except hopefully into a max security prison.

[–] Octavio@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Yeah. I would expect an insane conspiracy theorist to appeal to redhats and not normal people.

[–] Actaeon@artemis.camp 4 points 10 months ago

Big if true

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Isn't there "No Labels" party too? We gonna have a four way split?

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago

Don't forget Cornell West. It's just absolute chaos.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago
[–] Kalinus@lemmings.world 1 points 10 months ago

To the surprise of -10 people

[–] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago
[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


“With minority and younger voters seeming intrigued, Kennedy, for now, enjoys the kind of demographic support his charismatic father and uncles generated decades ago,” Quinnipiac University polling analyst Tim Malloy said in a release.

Kennedy, an environmental lawyer and prominent anti-vaccine activist, was running in the Democratic primaries against Biden until last month, when he declared himself an independent after struggling to make inroads against the incumbent.

Former Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio), a strong progressive and Kennedy’s original campaign manager, notably left his position just days after Kennedy announced he was switching affiliation.

Politico reported on Wednesday that Kennedy has been receiving donations from former Trump donors at a much higher rate than from former Biden donors, possibly signaling the risk for Republicans with his candidacy.

Other polls have found that Kennedy may hurt Trump more than Biden in a general election, including a USA Today/Suffolk University poll from last month that found Kennedy costs Trump what would be a narrow lead in a hypothetical race.

The Quinnipiac poll found that adding progressive activist Cornel West, who is also running as an independent, for a four-way race, leaves Biden with a narrower lead than he had in the three-way race.


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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

“With minority and younger voters seeming intrigued, Kennedy, for now, enjoys the kind of demographic support his charismatic father and uncles generated decades ago,” Quinnipiac University polling analyst Tim Malloy said in a release.

Tim Malloy just be a distant Kennedy cousin or something, because this take is extremely generous. RFK Jr has the charisma of a plastic bag. The only thing he shares with his dad is his name.

And you would think Junior would want to steer clear of running for President, given what happened to his dad when he ran.

[–] ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago
[–] snownyte@kbin.social -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The independent ticket seems to have died along with Bernie's chances of ever having been getting into presidency. It's almost like any whackjob that gets to run Independent, mind as well call it Republican 2.0

[–] chaogomu@kbin.social 10 points 10 months ago

After Ralph Nader cost Gore the 2000 election, (along with blatant supreme court fuckery) Democrats have been a little wiser about third party candidates.

See, under First Past the Post, a third party candidate is a liability. When you support a third party, or independent, the most likely outcome is the majority candidate that is ideologically closest to that candidate will lose. The Spoiler Effect.

RFK Jr. is a blatant attempt at Republicans trying to create a spoiler candidate. The problem (for them) is, he's much closer to Trump than Biden on many key issues.