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[–] Drusas@kbin.social 69 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This whole meme is based on a lie; people on a keto diet get harassed all the time.

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

…….. 100% no? Unless it’s all they fucking talk about.

No one cares what you eat, just shut the fuck up about it.

[–] AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

When I'm having a barbecue And I ask, "Do you have any dietary restrictions" I'm really just asking do I need to use separate implements and surfaces to handle your food, not your philosophy of human nutrition.

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Guilty conscience meat eaters use concern trolling to salvage their own self-esteem. In my experience, those expressions of worry are back handed compliments at best. They never come from people who are in better shape than I am and they don't come from people with better nutrition either.

[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Wow you really nailed it.

I lost 58kg and the only things I ever heard was concern trolling from my friends that resented me for doing what they could not.

Never heard word one about my body while I was unhealthy and unhappy, and the shitty remarks started as soon as the weight reduction became noticeable.

"Woah slow down, don't want you to disappear!" "You've proven your point! You can eat a donut!" "Why do you want to be miserable and only eat seeds?" "Fuck dude you're vanishing! Eat a hamburger!" "You think you're better than everyone now!" "It's actually really unhealthy to be as lean as you've become." "Don't like hanging out anymore, you make me think about every molecule I put in my damned mouth!" "You look like a skeleton now."

And so forth.

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[–] Spzi@lemm.ee 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Maybe it has become worse since all those vegan or vegetarian fast food options became available in stores and restaurants.

When I hear non-vegs talk about living meat-free, the conversation always revolves around these meat substitutes, how unhealthy they are.

It does not come to their mind one can prepare a meal from fresh produce. Yes of course, fast food is unhealthy. On the other hand, I like it.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Are the meat substitutes actually bad, though? Certainly can't be worse than normal fast food.

[–] mortalic@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Assuming you're asking about things like impossible and beyond meat. They are generally not "healthy" but one stark difference is they don't have cholesterol.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 year ago

Whether something is healthy or not is very contentious in the first place, especially with how much misinformation there is out there.

I just try to read the labels on the replacements I buy, and most of them just have many random vegetables and stuff, with a seemingly good balance in nutrients and so on. Maybe there is stuff I'm missing, but I don't see much bad that can be in there.

I think the most important thing is to just have a relatively balanced diet.

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[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So you're telling us you're vegan.

Typical.

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[–] Newsilverpig@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I've done both vegan and keto for over a year at some point during my life and what I will say is that I naturally cover my nutrition bases through preferences and desires, while vegan though I had to hunt down (forgive the pun) b12 and complete proteins combinations a little more diligently to cover my nutrition needs.

Or put differently, I think it's easier to mess up a vegan diet than a keto one.

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[–] neurospice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 year ago (29 children)

Always reassuring when carnists come on here to justify themselves on a vegan community. Honestly wouldn't be a vegan space without those comments

It front paged. Nobody "came here" to defend themselves.

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[–] Tischkante@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Let people eat what/who they want.

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[–] Obonga@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago

Scrolling down half i the comments has give me a true headache. Why do you guys feel the need to explain your consumption to vegans? Not like we have not heard your "arguments" a thousand times before.

Oh wait, you arent trying to justify your actions to us but to yourself?

[–] MooseBoys@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (16 children)

Keto excludes high-carb foods like bread which almost never contribute to a person’s essential vitamin, mineral, and protein intake. Vegan, on the other hand, excludes plenty of foods that are common sources of essential nutrients and especially protein.

It’s obviously possible to be malnourished on any diet, but if you take a normal healthy diet and exclude keto-unfriendly items, it will almost certainly still be a healthy diet. If you did the same for vegan-unfriendly items, on the other hand, you’d almost certainly have an unhealthy diet without consciously finding suitable vegan replacements.

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[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 year ago (6 children)

why are there so many triggered omnis in this thread lmao

[–] cro_magnon_gilf@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 year ago

The post is on the front page

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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

A whole stick of butter? Like, unfried? Reminds me of the time we had houseguests, opened up the butter dish and found teeth marks.

No one believes it's the cat, Susan.

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