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  1. We're trying to improving working conditions and pay.

  2. We're trying to reduce the numbers of hours a person has to work.

  3. We talk about the end of paid work being mandatory for survival.

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[–] velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml 90 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This is why I'm jobless. Because I don't want to work for scums like him.

Also, his daughter is the wife of Rishi Sunak, the rich, entitled prick.

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wasn't she also caught not paying tax?

[–] velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

More like given a free pass. And it still looks like nothing has been done about it. The Tories have fucked up the UK so bad.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same, honestly

Real Oligarchy Hours

[–] velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I had a job till last January, started work around October. I was overworked to 50-55hr/week, and the co-founder would call me anytime, even at night. I had no clue what I was doing. As an intern, I was supposed to handle the entire full-stack application of an outdated web framework, work on the database model, as well as write tests. No one to guide me, and a shitty salary of ₹12,000 ($144) per month, which could not cover anything. So I, a fresh graduate, was doing the work of a lead dev in the salary of an intern. I didn't quit because I hated it. I quit, because I was actually sick (as in, illness).

And in a country like India, where there's too many CS graduates with worthless degrees, you're quite replaceable. Also, there's no labor laws. Everything is expensive, including properties. Inflation is so high here, owning a house in Mumbai and Bengaluru is relatively more expensive than in cities like New York or Singapore (remember that the Indian Rupees is 80 times weaker than the US Dollar). I will never be able to buy a land or own a house. And I'm just 23, and I know that we are royally fucked up.

[–] fckreddit@lemmy.ml 68 points 1 year ago

His entire fortune is built on the backs of overworked people. No wonder he is trying to manipulate people into working unreasonable amount of hours.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

World calls for this guy to drown in manure

[–] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Napolean from Animal Farm: "The truest happiness, he said, lay in working hard and living frugally.”

[–] tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I myself worked 70h/w for the last two weeks. Wouldn't recommend. This guy is crazy.

[–] ArbiterXero@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He’s not crazy.

He directly benefits from the 70 hours of his workers. He’s manipulative, not crazy.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Three years ago he called for young people to work 60 hours a week. He's just stepping up his entitled requirements now.

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A couple of years ago I worked roughly 65 hours a week for like two months because we were understaffed. I told my boss he had to find someone new as soon as possible. He said he wasn’t even looking. „Everything is fine! You just have to change your methods and work smarter!“

I immediately quit, drove to my doc, told him the story and sat at home for the rest of the period of notice.

Seriously, fuck that guy.

[–] MelodiousFunk@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

Similar story here, except instead of no help, I got a green nepo hire with a doctored resume that I was expected to babysit. I gave it a couple of months to bake, just to make sure I wasn't overreacting. Nope, he was useless. I walked.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

A week after I was hired by my company, I was working 70 hour weeks for 6 weeks on an 8 day rotation. After that, it was 60 hour weeks for a month. Needless to say, I had a mental health crisis.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My first real job was working 12h shifts at a global company's internal IT helpdesk.

The shifts were alternating day/night periods on an irregular schedule.

I have worked 60 hour weeks, 5 days in a row, and that shit can fuck right off, I can't even imagine working 70 hour weeks.

I suspect this guy either has worked like crazy to build his company up from the ground and believe that his employees should feel the same drive as he did as the owner, or that he has never worked close to that much in a week, and is just looking at a pie chart of the available hours in the day.

I am glad for the job I had back then, even if the hours sucked, I learned a lot, and it made me apriciate the free time I got when I started working normal hours, but I would not wish those hours on anyone, they killed my social life, and even seven years later I have not recovered it.

[–] velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

At least you learn stuff from your job. The job his company is involved is, is outdated, mainframe shit. Those skills are barely transferrable, and you are kind of fucked. And once you're stuck working with such companies, no other good, product-based companies in India will accept you. And their salaries are terrible. Know a classmate who works there, he was paid ₹1 lacs (₹1,00,000) per annum. They love to exploit desperate folks.

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Haha, what a cunt.

I bet he gets on great with Rishi.

[–] HowMany@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

They're not working for the country. What nationalistic hype. They're working for some asshole who's making all the money off their labor. India needs even more corrections to the government than the United States.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

The intent is to provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking different heroes.

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

He can get fucked

[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

Is anyone surprised that persons who work at those levels often have personality disorders?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

70 hours a week...

So would he prefer 10 hours a day, every day? Or just 14 hours a day, 5 days a week?

Are they just not supposed to go to school?

I'm pretty sure we've seen the end results of this:

https://youtu.be/YOnSXw9coq8

[–] donuts@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When your entire existence relies on exploiting the work of the people who are "under you", of course you want them to work harder, faster and more. They'd crack out the whip if they'd get away with it.

These rotten billionaires don't care about our little lives or how much we enjoy or very short time on this planet, they only care about maximizing share prices and filling their pockets with bonuses that the workers are earning for them.

[–] Titan@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

They get away with it in some countries. The last Fifa World Cup was built by modern day slaves. And people still traveled there, sponsors like Coca Cola and Hyundai/Kia stood proudly behind them

[–] lustyargonian@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Truth be told, every single person can only give so much of their brain or body to a job in long term. You may think you're working 14 hours a day regularly, but it's usually 2-3 hours a day of productive use of time, rest can be busy work, at least in the tech industry. I don't mean there can never be times when you actually work for 14 hours daily, but it'll burn you out so quickly that you'll end up taking longer breaks, quitting or just becoming toxic in other areas of your life. Not worth it.

It's like induced demand. Wider roads don't necessarily mean faster traffic. More working hours doesn't mean better productive use of time. That's why we see reports telling how 4 day work weeks actually improved productivity. Less time for BS.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it'll burn you out so quickly that you'll end up taking longer breaks, quitting or just becoming toxic in other areas of your life. Not worth it.

That's OK with this guy. He'll just take the profits from your labour and replace you with someone whom he hasn't broken yet.

[–] lustyargonian@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And replacement can be very easy in a country like India. Sounds like a sinister plan.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 10 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


“My request is that our youngsters must say ‘This is my country I want to work 70 hours a week’,” he said, adding “this is exactly what Germans and Japanese did after the Second World War.”

Working those extreme hours, he added, will define a culture that ultimately improves India’s government by setting an example.

He added his view that long working hours will help to propel India to become one of the world’s top two economies in coming decades.

Ironically, Infosys – the company Murthy co-founded and served as CEO from 1981 to 2002, recently reported its staff utilization rate is currently 81.8 percent – less than half the 70 hours the former boss wants young Indians to work.

The former CEO also appeared ignorant of the fact that long working hours have created problems elsewhere - including in the nations he wants India to emulate and surpass.

China’s tech industry developed a culture in which 72-hour working weeks became the norm, leading workers to push back, hard against the expectations of overwork and the nation’s courts to agree that employers could not reasonably require long hours.


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[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well since we've entered the realm of calling for things...

Remember we don't need guillotines.

Those were designed to minimize suffering.

[–] shath@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

hey infosys co-founder, [redacted] yourself

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I'm already working hard - for my goal of a three-day-week.

Because my current four-day-week is nice but not good enough for a satisfying work life balance.

[–] tripartitegraph@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

hahahahahaha get fucked

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago
[–] exoplanetary@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

If I was told I had to work 70 hours per week I’d quit on the spot.

This guy is fucking insane.

[–] deletedhobo@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

this type of bold faced manipulation and greed is why the youth are radicalizing left

[–] sashin@mastodon.online 1 points 1 year ago

@schizoidman I call for this guy to go fuck himself.

[–] artisanrox@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

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