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I'm trying out Obsidian for taking notes, and this made me laugh.

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[–] amio@kbin.social 402 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Funny, but unironically a pretty good idea.

[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 128 points 10 months ago (3 children)

One of my first computer jobs was working in a student computer lab at my undergraduate university. This was back in the mid 90s-ish.

We had three types of computers - windows machines running 3.1 or whatever was current then, Macs who would all do a Wild Eep together when they rebooted en masse, and Sun X Windows dumb terminals that were basically just (obviously) unix machines for all intents and purposes. This was back when there were basically like 5 websites total, and people still hadn’t heard of Mosaic.

So everyone wanted the windows and Mac boxes, and only took the xterms when there was nothing else open. I was the primary support person for them since none of the other people wanted to learn Unix and I was the only CS major.

The X boxes suffered from two main learning hurdles. One was that backspaces were incorrectly mapped into some escape key sequence, and the other is that it would drop you from (I think) pine into emacs as a mail editor as soon as you hit it. 90% of my time was telling people how to exit emacs. It was that, putting more paper into the printers, and teaching myself more programming than I was learning in classes.

[–] modeler@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

My god that brought back memories. The first commands when sitting at a new terminal was always, always:

stty sane

stty erase '^H'

It was well into the 2000s before Unix had useable defaults.

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[–] nautilus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 168 points 10 months ago (12 children)
[–] folkrav@lemmy.world 124 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

It's hard to hate nano, but IMHO there also isn't anything to like in particular either. It's basically a TUI notepad. It's there, it lets people edit files... and that's pretty much all there is to it.

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 145 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You can use nano without having to read anything about nano. That might be the only thing that is better about it than vim, but it's a damn important thing.

[–] nautilus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 67 points 10 months ago (6 children)

I have zero patience when trying to make small adjustments to files, which is what my command line text editor should be for. Nano just has everything at the bottom in case you forget (I do, frequently) so the workflow is ridiculously streamlined for me

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[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 36 points 10 months ago

it's basically a TUI notepad. It's there, it does one job and that's all there is to it

That's what the people who like it like about it.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 33 points 10 months ago (3 children)

That’s it’s job

What else is there for it to do?

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[–] marduk@lemmy.sdf.org 50 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I like nano because it has worked any time I needed it. I don't dislike nano because I'm not good enough at Linux to have ever run into its limitations

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 34 points 10 months ago (22 children)

I never get the need to use vim and nano exists.

[–] bioemerl@kbin.social 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (14 children)

Vim really is an IDE, not a text editor. It's usable as an editor but overkill.

Nano serves a difference purpose. It's like telling someone on a bike that a mustang is better.

[–] kogasa@programming.dev 26 points 10 months ago (37 children)

Vim is absolutely not an IDE. It has no integrations with any language. It's just a powerful text editor. You can add language plugins and configure it to be an IDE.

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[–] locuester@lemmy.zip 28 points 10 months ago (5 children)

nano gang checking in.

However, I’ve been forced over time to remember “:wq” to get unstuck should vim randomly appear.

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 122 points 10 months ago (1 children)

when you click enable vim it should just start nano

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 40 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I hate when I use visudo and it opens in nano and I try to use vi controls

[–] jodanlime@midwest.social 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Gentoo1337@sh.itjust.works 117 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Why would I want to exit vim?

[–] DWin@sh.itjust.works 32 points 10 months ago (11 children)

I tmux my vim session so I never have to exit it, I just end the session and NOTHING OF NOTE HAPPENS

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[–] ndsvw@feddit.de 104 points 10 months ago (2 children)

just unplug the computer...

And if it's cloud computer, just unplug the cloud..

[–] Tak@lemmy.ml 31 points 10 months ago (7 children)
[–] kurwa@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Disconnect the battery terminals obviously!

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[–] PwnTra1n@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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[–] Serpardum@lemmy.world 80 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's very easy to terminate vim. I just use the power button.

[–] DNOS@reddthat.com 30 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Uh... so u guys don't change the PC each time that's cool I would definitely try that ...

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[–] psud@aussie.zone 78 points 10 months ago (7 children)

If anyone needs the command: :q!

If you want the computer to ask if you're sure: :q

If you want to save: :wq

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 58 points 10 months ago (4 children)

You’re nullifying that safety measure by doing this you know

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[–] Zacryon@feddit.de 20 points 10 months ago

If you want to save: :wq

Or :x

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[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 74 points 10 months ago (30 children)

I don't mean to be all "BuT iT's cLOseD SoURce" but you should give Logseq or Zettlr a try. They're similar WYSIWYG markdown editors, but also FOSS. Zettlr also has vim keys.

Plus Obsidian is horrible at editing tables.

[–] doeknius_gloek@feddit.de 46 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Also not a fan about the closed source thing, but I like about Obsidian that it's all just markdown. If I ever need to ditch it, I can keep and use my existing files as they are.

Would this also be possible with Zettlr or Logseq?

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[–] Jorgelino@lemmy.ml 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for the suggestions, I'm actually checking a couple new editors out as i'm looking for an alternative to OneNote. Just started messing with this one, but i'm not sure if i'll settle for it yet.

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[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 71 points 10 months ago (10 children)

I mean, it's true.

I've been using linux pretty exclusively at home for almost 25 years now. Program. Script. Work in the shell a lot, and the other day I had to use vim and it took me a while to remember the basic commands. I'm a nano guy :\

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[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 51 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Big brain time, pkill vim

Vim: Caught deadly signal TERM
Vim: Finished.
Terminated

[–] dreugeworst@lemmy.ml 30 points 10 months ago (2 children)

So from within vim :!pkill vim?

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[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 48 points 10 months ago (9 children)

A lot of my personal dislike for VIM would be done away with if it just had a helpful common keys cheat sheet (basic cursor navigation, edit mode, exit with and without saving, etc) at the bottom of the editor window like Nano does.

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[–] thechadwick@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You don't change Vim, Vim changes you. https://youtu.be/9n1dtmzqnCU

*edit: shortened and thanks! Did not know and gross..

[–] Vash63@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago (22 children)

There's a few different ways to write that command in vim, does it accept all of them?

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[–] Luvon@beehaw.org 26 points 10 months ago

If you want to learn vim, try the command vimtutor in a terminal

[–] mdurell@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] darcy@sh.itjust.works 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

if your desktop environment uses alt+f4 to quit 💀

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[–] rustbuckett@lemmings.world 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I just can't quit you, vim!

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[–] homura1650@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Tricky question, but I think I have a solution:

:!readlink /proc/$PPID/fd/* | grep "$(dirname %)/.$(basename %).sw" | xargs -I{} rm "{}" ; kill -9 $PPID

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[–] Crass_Spektakel@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

That is just hilarious but also...

I just remembered that Bram Moolenaar, the author of vim has recently died...

He was a real good person. Back when he released his first vim for Amiga Computers I exchanged some emails with him and he handled even my less smart suggestions very professional.

I just take the chance to remind everyone to spend some money for his Uganda Charity.

[–] hai@lemmy.ml 20 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I think this is the most upvotes I’ve seen on a Lemmy post….

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