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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 76 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Liberals often think that if someone has different opinions from them, then they must be a conservative, because they have no idea that socialists exist.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 51 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Sometimes liberals think that socialists are the leftmost liberals, but we’re not liberals at all: we want nothing short of the abolition of private ownership of the means of production.

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[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 47 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Or they know that they exist but don't really understand socialism, Marxism, historical materialism, things like dictatorship of capital etc.

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[–] HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 54 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Very weird game of telephone happening on Lemmy rn where apparently the longest running queer instance on Lemmy is being presented as full as 'conservative sleeper agents pretending to be queer to mock 'real' queer people'

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And those β€œreal” queer people are at lemmy.blahaj.zone.

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[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 53 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

lol no

Hexbear is a big tent community that tries our best to avoid sectarian shitflinging while having three very strong points of unity: Trans rights, anti-imperialism and anti-colonialism, and relentlessly bullying reactionaries (this includes both liberals and conservatives in addition to the obvious targets: the mask off fascists).

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[–] booty@hexbear.net 41 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 34 points 11 months ago (6 children)

tfw no anarchist ghost smh. I didn't know the afterlife was so authoritarian, damn tankies.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 31 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

This is funny because it seems to be a more appropriate image to invoke for Hexbear users as we are the ones more notorious for "dogpiling" or "brigading" which is ironically a function of the fact that we disabled downvotes because of reactionaries using them to astroturf posts and harass trans people without actually speaking out and outing themselves.

So for years the site culture is one of disagreement yielding a flood of dissent instead of just a "silent" downvote.

TL;DR if you want to force your community to up their posting game, disable downvotes.

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[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 38 points 11 months ago (15 children)

No.

Just to put in liberal terms, we are:

Culturally Progressive (eg. Pro LGBT)

Economically Socialist (eg. Pro-Economic Planning, Pro-Gift Economy, et Pro-Nationalization)

Anti-imperialist and critical supportive of progressive forces on foreign policy (Eg. Pro-Cuba, pro-Vietnam, pro-China, though somewhat conditionally supportive of Russia, in fending off NATO and its Ukrainian proxy)

We are thus also anti-orientalist and also kinda support 'another kkkrakka down, unlimited genocide on the Global North' sort of shtick...

We're tankies, by your definition, but normal leftists, according to other people...

And I say this as a moderate rebel a la White Helmets...

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[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 35 points 11 months ago (44 children)

I'd love to know why you think we're conservative. Or some examples of conservatism being supported on Hexbear

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[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What exactly about society do you suspect we're interested in conserving?

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

About society lol we definitely want to conserve nature

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[–] macabrett@lemmy.ml 31 points 11 months ago (5 children)

No, not at all. They are very far left communists and some anarchists. I love them.

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[–] Sickos@hexbear.net 29 points 11 months ago
[–] mustardman@hexbear.net 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In my experience it's a centrist instance. Trots are as welcome as LMs, and so are anarchists. Most users are libs tho

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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 26 points 11 months ago
[–] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 24 points 11 months ago

a fish, swimming in water, asking if the person sitting on the shore is wet

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 23 points 11 months ago

You're more conservative than us.

[–] Bassword@hexbear.net 22 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] roux@hexbear.net 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I'm just a lib, playing a lib, disguised as another lib.

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[–] panopticon@hexbear.net 21 points 11 months ago
[–] velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

They're left leaning and ~~pro-orientalist~~ anti-imperialist, I think?

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 30 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They're left leaning and pro-orientalist

geordi-no

They're left leaning and anti-imperialist

geordi-yes

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

pro-orientalist

Anti-orientalism would be closer to the mark, or more generally, anti-racist/chauvanist.

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[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 21 points 11 months ago

left leaning

We would make Stalin look like a liberal.

pro-orientalist

cringe

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