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"The irresolvable dilemma facing Western leaders is that this is a no-win situation. How can they militarily defeat Russia, when it possesses 6,000 nuclear warheads and its military doctrine explicitly states that it will use them before it will accept an existential military defeat?" The consequences of war and dehumanization always, always, always come home. There are no "nations," except in our imagi-nations.

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[–] gcb@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

that's why the world must attack first.

[–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] gcb@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

someone still stuck in 1998. that ship has sailed.

[–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Could you please start making sense?

[–] GenkiFeral@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

more like 1980s.

[–] GenkiFeral@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I hope YOU are on the front lines or the first to sacrifice your heroic self. Count me out, buddy. I want peace and longevity for Russians, Ukrainians, Iranians, Chinese, and my own countrymen. Zelensky signed a pledge (to whom, idk) that he wouldn't negotiate with Putin, but only with another/new Russian president. NEGOTIATE. The USA overthrew the previous Ukrainian president in 2013 or 2014 in their Euromaidan event. The evidence is on the internet if you care to find it. I don't like Biden or Trump much, but if either were killed or overthrown by the meddling of a foreign government, I'd have a fit.

[–] gcb@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

you can't be against war and be pro putin.

that's like being against war but pro american exceptionalism.

[–] GenkiFeral@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

you can't be for Hillary or Joe and be anti-war, either

[–] johnnymojo@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Too true. Hillary would've expanded the militarys presence in Afghanistan. Sorry if the Taliban is oppressive, but they won too quickly to be unpopular.

[–] gcb@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago
[–] johnnymojo@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Though it may seem like a best reaction, I disagree. We need to STOP fighting outside of internationally recognized borders. Defense is WITHIN you borders. Preemptive action and strikes are unacceptable. International security through unilateral disarmament is the best solution for everyone.

[–] johnnymojo@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I find the US quite hypocritical. In my lifetime: Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan have been overt colonizations, not to talk about the domination of South and Central America. Never officially declaring war means nothing.

[–] GenkiFeral@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I could kiss you. a voice of reason in a mad world.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, the US is very hypocritical. I am not the US though, not even a citizen.