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A new study has confirmed that the Gulf Stream, a crucial ocean current that helps regulate climate and sea levels, is weakening. The flow of warm water through the Florida Straits has slowed by 4% over the past four decades. This slowdown has significant implications for the world's climate, and scientists are concerned that it may be a sign of further weakening to come.

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[–] Octagon9561@lemmy.ml 156 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But profits are up, how could this have possibly happened? People aren’t buying enough of our green washing products, that must be it!

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 78 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Has anyone tried bribing the gulf stream with some of these massive profits? Everything has a price

[–] pufferfischerpulver@feddit.de 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let's hire a private security firm to find some dirt on that son of a bitch. We'll find some fucking dirt to get him going!

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

I heard the gulf stream hangs out near Epstein's Island! (It's not that close, please don't flame my geography knowledge)

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

No, no, that would be too expensive. Let’s ~~bribe~~ lobby our ~~bought~~ elected representatives to pass laws saying it can’t do that. That’ll work

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If the tax payers want to give me trillions then I can set up some giant fans along the gulf to push the water around

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[–] CoderKat@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

If the gulf stream wants a share of the profits, it needs to pull itself up by its bootstraps and put the work in itself.

[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 85 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But for a fraction of time humanity generated profits for shareholders. The End.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Really is our story and our end. Jfc

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 76 points 1 year ago (5 children)

At this point, I don't think anything short of losing coastal cities will whip apathetic people into climate action.

[–] schema@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Covid-19 has made me even more cynical than ever. It has shown that people would rather die than accept reality. And compared to climate change, the effort to protect against covid was minuscule on an individual level. But still, too many people couldn't be asked.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For me, the biggest one is the push for a return to office. I see it as a great opportunity to contact the economy and reduce resource consumption and carbon production with a lot of white collar support. But the owners just aren't having it and insist on a return to the status quo, even though it's obvious we're killing the environments we need to survive with this status quo.

[–] Mr_Magpie@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's one of the greatest sadnesses I can name. We were shown it was possible, and in many cases beneficial, and yet... We went back.

[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Won't anyone think of the commercial real estate market? Also, middle managers can't middle manage remotely. Whats a middle manager to do if they can't justify their position?

/s

[–] ProvableGecko@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When a much more deadly pandemic comes it'll be an extinction event

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[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Just looked it up on Wikipedia and "Hurricane Katrina displaced over one million people from the central Gulf coast to elsewhere across the United States, becoming the largest diaspora in the history of the United States."

Having a million Americans lose their homes wasn't enough to even move the needle on climate action. Same way that over a million Americans died of COVID and many people still claim it's a "hoax". I'm convinced that the propaganda is just too much to ever overcome.

I really, really, really want to be proven wrong - but I think you could literally have entire nations be made uninhabitable, and rather than welcoming refuges and making policy changes to avoid climate disaster, we'll find a way to bury our heads in the sand and complain about immigrants taking our jobs.

[–] Eccitaze@yiffit.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, but those were brown people that were displaced, nobody gives a shit about them /s

[–] zzzzz@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

That's objective reality, not sarcasm.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Every time I read these articles I just keep waiting for all the other people to finally catch on to how fucked we are and a critical mass of people to actually do something meaningful. Still waiting.

As a result I was feeling frustrated and scared. But now I have come to bitterly accept we are probably going to kill ourselves off (mostly or completely) after mass suffering. At best, I figure whoever is left goes insane because 99% of all species will have gone extinct and the earth will have become a barren, silent, cheerless wasteland.

Hopefully we have exploited natural resources to a degree where it will be out of reach for the next sentient species. They won't find pip or gold or other minerals just lying around so maybe they will remain primitive and low population.

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[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

It's so crazy at my job where we do infrastructure stuff. We know it's getting worse. Areas are flooding that should not be flooding, rolling blackouts/greyouts are becoming more common, stuff is overheating that didn't overheat in the past.

Head of engineering keeps pushing us to think about this stuff. Build in more cooling, make stuff waterproof that shouldn't have to be. I don't know how bad it is going to get but I do know that I will be working up to the end.

[–] magikmw@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It wont happen like in Day After Tomorrow.

The beaches will get shorter, the docks will get deeper, then some warehouse will get flooded along with some homeless camp.

Land prices will shift, people will move, it'll be a curiosity.

That island nation on the Pacific? Oh well.

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Whelp, enjoy extinction everyone.

[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Psh, the capitalists will save us all with their record profits and zeros at the end of their bank accounts! I'm sure that's not why these rich assholes aren't trying to race into space or anything.

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[–] Reality_Suit@lemmy.one 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Global revolt against the few inbred old wealth

[–] mob@sopuli.xyz 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hate to say it, but even if somehow the top 1% or .1% disappeared, we'd probably stay on the same trajectory.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

At this point its just for a bit of fun

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[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

But it would make us feel better!

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (7 children)

This means Europe will freeze.

[–] datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Only in the winter. Summers will be burning hot.

[–] CoolHandLuke@feddit.uk 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good thing we left, now we won't have to deal with the European climate :)

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Invest in coat makers, you say?

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[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

The people that need to care- don’t. And the people that DO care, are unable to do enough to change the outcome.

We’re fucked.

[–] supercriticalcheese@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Original scientific work: https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2023GL105170

It has a plain language summary, nothing as far as dramatic. I definitely didn't find any actual study predicting a collapse.

Plain Language Summary

The Gulf Stream is a major ocean current located off the East Coast of the United States. It carries a tremendous amount of seawater and along with it heat, carbon, and other ocean constituents. Because of this, the Gulf Stream plays an important role in weather and climate, influencing phenomena as seemingly unrelated as sea level along coastal Florida and temperature and precipitation over continental Europe. Given how important this ocean current is to science and society, scientists have tried to determine whether the Gulf Stream has undergone significant changes under global warming, but so far, they have not reached a firm conclusion. Here we report our effort to synthesize available Gulf Stream observations from the Florida Straits near Miami, and to assess whether and how the Gulf Stream transport there has changed since 1982. We conclude with a high degree of confidence that Gulf Stream transport has indeed slowed by about 4% in the past 40 years, the first conclusive, unambiguous observational evidence that this ocean current has undergone significant change in the recent past. Future studies should try to identify the cause of this change.

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

one thing i don't see mentioned much is the fact that while Europe gets colder, the real problem will be that it's going to get very, very dry.. the supercharged hurricane cycle should bring some devastating seasonal flooding though..

[–] Xavier@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hopefully I'm safe-ish in Québec…

It's sad to see all these climate tipping points taking hold with humans not even (really) trying to slow them down, forget reversing them.

Continiously bickering over pointless things. With wars taking over unexpectedly one after another (in retrospect, maybe not that unexpected). China just itching for anything to start their own little "special operation" next door. While some other militarized countries/organizations are too trigger happy and in fear of missing out on the action.

We may indeed not make it past the hyperobject that is Climate Change simply because we are too busy blaming inflation, opposing political views, illusions of our own imagination and an unending amount of irrationality. Since it is inconvenient/difficult to try and understand slightly complex concept such as taxation, vaccination, immigration, or even just a map amongst so many things, let alone complex systems feeding into each other such as the Human-Ecology-Climate systems.

Moreover, the prevalence of misinformation doesn't help.

Nevertheless, let us hope for better times. 🥹

[–] set_secret@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

you're not.

If you're on earth, you're not safe from catastrophic climate change unfortunately.

our only hope is a absolutely radical shift towards decarbonisation, however the drive of capitalism and greed is an unstoppable force.

Enjoy normal life while we still have it at this point.

We're not safe anywhere because people move. Borders ar nothing more than a concept.

[–] wabafee@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Wait a minute, This seem like a scene of The Day After Tomorrow?

[–] Coskii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

After becoming YouTube educated on this matter.. Not to that extent. The main thing to notice in the short term is the slowing of the gulf stream will reallocate 'sea level' on either side of the ocean.. Which sounds like a 3ish ft increase on the west, and the same as a decline for the east.

I'm not a water science person though, so I'm just mimicking words.

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[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Is this... It?

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