As an Ohioan myself. Fuck Gym Jordan. He shouldn't be allowed to hold a government position.
this post was submitted on 16 Oct 2023
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Yeah his actions at OSU should’ve disqualified him before he opened his mouth
The clock on the 45 day continuing resolution that Gym Jordan did NOT vote for runs out in November.
Unless a budget is passed, government will shut down: this is what Jordan wanted the last time, and McCarthy out-maneuvered him.
So add a shutdown government to the current crises, at the very least, as well as the fact that he will not bring any legislation to the floor for a vote that does not have unanimous or close to unanimous GOP support (Hastert rule) and I think it’s safe to say that pretty much all government will bottleneck at the House and cease to function unless someone else becomes Speaker.
That, and he becomes third in line for President. Whether any succeed or not, just putting Jordan that close to the presidency is going to light a flame under all manner of nasty right-wing homemade succession plans.
The leading GOP nominee for Speaker is 10-20 votes away (at best).
The leading Democratic nominee for Speaker is 5 votes away.
I can't help thinking there should be a built-in way to bypass this obvious deadlock. Maybe the Parliamentarian should come up with something.
If they do, I can almost guarantee it will favor the Republicans like it generally does.
They do indeed know how to manipulate the system.
I would like a constitutional amendment that says that whenever there is a government shutdown or a deadlock on a vacancy of any constitutional position, each state's members of the congress and the senate draw straws and whoever pulls the short straw loses their capacity to vote or make a quorum on the debt reauthorization or confirmation vote, and their seat goes up for re-election at the end of the current term.
Like, my dude, do your fucking job.
There's a simpler way to avoid shutdowns. Get rid of the debt ceiling.
Ah, but then the GOP would lose almost literally all of their power in congress.
You say that like it's a bad thing. Yet they wouldn't lose ALL their power in Congress, just their power to hold it hostage while flatly refusing to work with anyone else, or for their constituents, or while destroying everything in reach whenever the latest demand or deposit -- or both -- arrives from Sochi.
Oh no. Definitely not a bad thing.
Sorry, should have slapped a /s on there, lol.
Is he literally the nominee because no one else wants it?
He's also one of the biggest fucking clowns there... I can't stand watching any committee/hearing/investigation he's on...
Of all the people, how do we always end up with the worst...
Of all the people, how do we always end up with the worst…
Because the GOP have mastered the strategy of using threats, violence, and intimidation to make positions of authority untenable for those who are actually interested in governing and putting in the work, leaving behind only the authoritarian wannabes to fill the void.
Jordan is here because the MAGA wing have successfully intimidated the rest of the party into submission, to the point where no "sane" republican would go within a mile of that gavel even if they were wearing a hazmat suit.
Any R with remaining moderate leanings is worried about being primaried by a Freedom Caucus type. This threat is how desantis has gotten the Florida legislature to do anything he wants.
Of all the people, how do we always end up with the worst...
We have yet to see the worst, unfortunately. If there's 1 thing I've learned about the GOP, it's that they can always reach into their bottomless pit of depravity to pull out an even bigger degenerate.
Remember when people thought it couldn't get any worse than Bush/Cheney? Oh how wrong we were.
It would seem so. I think it's more like "everyone else knows they can't get the votes" though. There's going to be enough that don't want to give in to the MAGA extremists holding the party hostage and there's enough MAGA extremists to stop anyone halfway same from being elected speaker.
I have no idea how this fuckwit thinks he's going to get the votes. 10 to 20 seems extremely low. I bet the vote ends up more like 80-100 short.
I have no idea how this fuckwit thinks he’s going to get the votes. 10 to 20 seems extremely low. I bet the vote ends up more like 80-100 short.
I'd like to think so, but all indications are that they are falling in line behind Jordan. My guess is that this is mostly out of fatigue and the fact that none of the "sane moderates" are willing to take the position. Jordan will probably be speaker by the end of tomorrow.
Gym Jordan probably ticks off enough of the magoos' check boxes. I'm not sure he was even qualified to be a coach, but he knows how to suck up to the crazies, that's for sure. And that's assuming he's not as bugfuck crazy as they are...
What a colossal shift right we are when Jordan makes McCarthy makes Ryan makes Boehner look moderate...
This country feels so fucked.
Republicans really are fucking themselves, and the country, over with catering to the extreme wing of their party. They've spent decades building their own alternative news bubble, which they've used to brainwash millions of people into thinking that all Democrats are pedophiles, while Trump is their lord and savior. As a result, any sane Republican in Congress would be absolutely vilified if they make an attempt and compromise with Democrats to reach a solution that puts anyone but a MAGA extremist in charge.
Honestly, it's kind of scary how something like 7 or 8 far right Congressmen are able to wield so much power and bend the rest of the Republican party to their will. I'll Godwin's Law myself here by pointing out that Nazis had 12 seats in the German government in 1928, but were able to use that influence to grow to 107 seats in 1930 and 230 seats in 1932, becoming their largest political party.
But here's the thing: there are no moderate Republicans left. The last 2 were primaried last cycle. The solution to this is so fucking simple if there were true moderates, too. "Moderate" Republicans would just partner with Dems to sidestep the crazies while getting points with the public in "getting the government back to work."
But the reality is these maga fellas are simply the fall-guys for floating test balloons before the rest of the party fully commits. Seems quite clear that's what is happening to me.
By any traditional definition, you're absolutely correct. The whole party has shifted so far to the right that my definition of "moderate" or "sane" Republicans was basically any politician that at least wanted to pretend to govern and not immediately throw out the Constitution and implement Trump as God-emperor. Even then, I don't think that applies to most of them.
Godwin's Law is dead. The GOP killed it when they openly courted Nazis.
Godwin himself said to feel free to use it when applied to Trump.
If still in doubt, the last surviving Nuremberg prosecutor said the same.
So he needs to groom 10 to 20 people in an organization that he wants to oversee?
We're in trouble. This is his wheelhouse.
I see what you did there
“Moderate” Republicans will cave. They’ll kneel to MAGA. None of the these “moderates” have a spine.
https://www.axios.com/2023/10/16/jim-jordan-house-speaker-endorsements
Only 10-20 or twenty R's support the constitution? I shouldn't be surprised.
They'll have a few rounds of voting with negotiations in between and they'll fall in line. Welcome to America where even the biggest far-right asshats can now become Speaker of the House.
Money it's more like 75.
This is all performative. Don't think for a second that those 10-20 give a shit about the rule of law or common decency - it's theater. They are in districts where they have constituents that need them to feign a bit of a "moral block", to really scratch their chins for a moment and come to the eventual conclusion that, "the people just can't wait any longer, I guess I have to vote for gym Jordan - you understand, grandma"
Is the whole "holdout as personal leverage against my own party" going to be a new trend? Seems like it elevates oneself at the expense of everyone else.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
"At least 10 to 20," one of the House Republicans told CBS News on Sunday, while another added that that Jordan's support has grown incrementally in recent days but remains soft.
While Jordan's confidants remain optimistic that he can get to the necessary 217 votes Tuesday, when the House is scheduled to bring a vote to the floor, several who are more critical of Jordan privately insisted this weekend that at about a dozen Republicans remain unwilling to support him, due to their frustrations over how Rep. Steve Scalise, Republican of Louisiana, was treated during his speaker bid and their simmering anger over the ouster of former Speaker Kevin McCarthy.
Some Trump allies, like former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon, have told associates privately that Jordan made a strategic mistake by not bringing a vote to the floor last week.
Sources say Jordan will try to rally GOP members on Monday night, when House Republicans are scheduled to huddle again, arguing it's time to put this political mess behind them.
And certainly, if there is a need if the radical, you know, almost just handful of people in the Republican side ... to make it for us unable to be able to return to general work on the House, then I think obviously, there will be a deal we'll have to be done."
If Jordan is unable to secure enough support by Tuesday's vote, some key Jordan skeptics and veteran Republicans are now preparing to push for a bipartisan deal that would expand the ability of Rep. Patrick McHenry, Republican of North Carolina, to move legislation on Israel and government funding through his current ministerial role as speaker pro tempore.
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