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[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 177 points 11 months ago (8 children)
[–] APassenger@lemmy.world 64 points 11 months ago (8 children)

It's this part.

We're telling them they've gone too far, seeing rules... and giving them weapons. Are we giving them seasons so they listen?

And if they don't listen, doesn't this make us complicit and with exceedingly poor intensional optics?

[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago (2 children)

They know that the worst that will happen is a stern warning. "Don't do that again, but it was justified. But don't do it... OK, just a little bit, but still."

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[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

How much Israeli money do you reckon went into the pockets of members of the fascist "freedom" caucus?

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Congress would need to initiate it unfortunately

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[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 112 points 11 months ago (9 children)

Biden: "For fuck's sake, Israel, don't do something this monumentally stupid."

No points for guessing what comes next.

[–] iyaerP@lemmy.world 66 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Is it ethnic cleansing?

Oh boy!

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 37 points 11 months ago

"Here I go killin' again!"

[–] sik0fewl@kbin.social 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's been happening for decades and just last week they starting displacing 1MM more. So I don't think "next" is the right word.

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[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 97 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Or what?

Edit: FYI I'm not supporting Israel doing this

[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 98 points 11 months ago (16 children)

Or they'll give them even more money and say some angry things about it.

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[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago

"Or else we will be very, very angry with you. And we will write you a letter, telling you how angry we are."

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[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 67 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Massacring civilians is fine, but occupying is a bridge too far, I guess.

[–] drdalek13@lemmy.ml 25 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I definitely get your point here, but a ground invasion would be irreversible. They would never leave Gaza

[–] Serinus@lemmy.ml 23 points 11 months ago

Haven't they done it twice before? Something like 2006 and 2014?

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Death is kinda irreversible too

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[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 65 points 11 months ago (1 children)

warehouse workers ask Jeff Bezos not to travel by private jet

[–] NewDark@lemmings.world 15 points 11 months ago

I mean, the US does have access to the money and weapons faucet Israel relies on.

[–] LackingC10H12N2O@lemmy.world 53 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Israel won't even need to occupy Gaza after they carpet bomb whats left of it into rubble. 😒

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[–] drewisawesome14@lemmy.world 47 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (42 children)

Pro Israel, Pro Palestine, fuck Hamas.

The Palestinians do have legitimate grievances with the Israeli government that need to be addressed, and Israel has every right to protect itself.

Hamas uses this for their own sick agendas and to maintain power.

Someone pointed it out, but how many of the people Hamas murdered do you think have joined the many protests for the freedom of the Palestinian people?

A lot of Jews in Israel support the freedom of the Palestinians and they have demonstrated such.

Hamas doesn’t give a shit about the Palestinians.

And Israel is showing the same by bombing innocents.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm a simple man. I think murder is always bad.

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[–] SpiralSong@lemmy.world 43 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Biden "And definitely don't occupy 5 different countrys at the same time. Some of them for over 20 years. Come on man!"

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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Yeah, what will he or the Democrats do when Israel does occupy Gaza?

Continue to provide unequivocal support and money to Israel?

It's not like they'll do anything else like officially recognize Israel has been acting as a apartheid state causing mass human suffering which in turn grew more mass suffering and conflict.

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[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago

After decades of turning blind eye towards Israel's crimes, suddenly Murica thinks it's going too far.

[–] Copernican@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago (4 children)

“I think it’d be a big mistake,” Mr. Biden told “60 Minutes” on CBS in a conversation taped on Thursday and aired on Sunday night. “Look, what happened in Gaza, in my view, is Hamas and the extreme elements of Hamas don’t represent all the Palestinian people. And I think that it would be a mistake for Israel to occupy Gaza again.” But “taking out the extremists” there, he added, “is a necessary requirement.”

I'm not sure how anyone is taking this as a controversial take. Logistically, practically, and the urgent bloodthirst for revenge make this fucking hard to do. But this seems to me to be a pretty even keeled non polarizing take on a complex situation where there is justification for military action against a terrorist group, and that military action must be measured against the safety and needs of a civilian population.

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[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

It's ok I told the angry pitbull to not attack the baby I slathered in steak sauce. Anyway, off to golf.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 21 points 11 months ago (13 children)

But he said he was convinced that “the Israelis are going to do everything in their power to avoid the killing of innocent civilians.”

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[–] Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago
[–] DreBeast@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The US is sending mix signals. Biden condemns Hamas, calls them terrorists, and funds the iron dome. Of course Israel thinks they have carte blanche in the region. Surrounded by hostile nations, what other nations in the world acts as aggressive as Israel. They do it because they know they have the full backing of the US. The question is will we live in a world without any Palestinians in the middle east soon - coz that's where we're headed.

Israel misspelled their defense system. Should be called the irony dome.

[–] Dubito_Cogito@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I agree with you. But I'd like to add this. I live in Israel at the moment, I'm not Israeli but I moved here for my job. I live in a pretty safe area, but we still had rockets coming from Gaza and from up north Hezbolla. They were explicitly targeting civilian areas. But iron Dome and the other system, David something intercepted it. Perspective on life changes when you see a flying missile heading your way only to get intercepted by these systems. The area where I live is full of Arabs, Jews, immigrant from Eastern Europe etc. and had several pro-palastine rallies in the past couple of days, and I stand with them. Also, There have been at least 5 to 6 Hamas strikes every hour since last week, they are targeting everywhere around Israel and iron Dome is on full protection.

I just wanted to add, I don't know what for..

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[–] oakey66@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (18 children)
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[–] AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Statements like this need to followed up with "or else!"

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