this post was submitted on 14 Oct 2023
114 points (91.9% liked)

Ask Lemmy

26734 readers
777 users here now

A Fediverse community for open-ended, thought provoking questions

Please don't post about US Politics.


Rules: (interactive)


1) Be nice and; have funDoxxing, trolling, sealioning, racism, and toxicity are not welcomed in AskLemmy. Remember what your mother said: if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. In addition, the site-wide Lemmy.world terms of service also apply here. Please familiarize yourself with them


2) All posts must end with a '?'This is sort of like Jeopardy. Please phrase all post titles in the form of a proper question ending with ?


3) No spamPlease do not flood the community with nonsense. Actual suspected spammers will be banned on site. No astroturfing.


4) NSFW is okay, within reasonJust remember to tag posts with either a content warning or a [NSFW] tag. Overtly sexual posts are not allowed, please direct them to either !asklemmyafterdark@lemmy.world or !asklemmynsfw@lemmynsfw.com. NSFW comments should be restricted to posts tagged [NSFW].


5) This is not a support community.
It is not a place for 'how do I?', type questions. If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to Lemmy.world Support or email info@lemmy.world. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.


Reminder: The terms of service apply here too.

Partnered Communities:

Tech Support

No Stupid Questions

You Should Know

Reddit

Jokes

Ask Ouija


Logo design credit goes to: tubbadu


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

She bought the tickets without knowing about the strike. We accepted the gift without knowing about the strike.

She's a Republican and still wants to go and cross the picket line. She doesn't care.

My wife understands my hesitancy, but says that it's too late, and so we have to go regardless.

The kids are really looking forward to it.

I just feel so horrible. But I have to go with them.

What can I do to make amends?

top 42 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] stephfinitely@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Watching scabs preforming at Medieval Times sounds horrible.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know, at dinner you always want the regular knight shift.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

The scabs are joust in case.

[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

We shall see. I shook hands with the strikers outside and said I was sorry, and that I would donate to the strike fund. My kids were really looking forward to this and are too excited.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 year ago

Wear a pro-union shirt or go in with a sign. No need to fight with your family, because your family isn't really the problem at hand right now.

[–] FMT99@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The kids saw the strikers outside? May be a good teaching moment so something personally positive comes out of it.

[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, there were about six strikers outside, two with signs. I let the family go through because I didn’t want to cause a scene with my in-laws, and I stayed back and talked with the strikers.

They recommended we go to the Pirate Adventure dinner theater instead, and I explained the situation, and said I would donate to the strike fund. We shook hands and I went and joined the family. The strikers seemed to understand the situation.

Apparently the scabs are from other non-union Medieval Times locations (trained etc.) so the show was a “normal” show.

But still, I couldn’t enjoy myself because the guilt just was too heavy.

[–] Gerbler@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

Donating to the strike fund was a brilliant way of evening out the impact. You weren't attending out of choice anyway but I hope your donation eases your conscience nonetheless.

[–] mawkishdave@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When enders game came out there was a big issue about the author of the books bring very homophobic because of his religion. I made a donation for the same price as the tickets to a pro LGBTQ+ org and still went. If your MIL gets snarky just put the donation under her name and put her email in. I would do that the next day so there is no fight and it messes up the kids time.

[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Perfect! Thats the plan!

[–] detalferous@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago

Donate to the union fund, and give the scab performance a one star review on Google maps

[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i went during the strike not realizing it, and there were signs saying you could get a refund afterwards if you ask. more importantly: bring ear protection, my watch was measuring 90+ decibels for an hour+.

[–] Neato@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What watch has ongoing decibel measuring?

[–] TragicNotCute@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

The Apple Watch does.

[–] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

She's a Republican and still wants to go and cross the picket line. She doesn't care.

Get her tickets to a drag show. If she doesn't go, then you know there's a double-standard, and you can decline future invitations using her same excuse.

[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don’t want problems with my mother-in-law. She’s been respectful of my politics for the past 20 years. No sense in ruining the relationship now.

[–] yata@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But you do realise that this particular scenario is her not being respectful of your politics, right?

[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

We actually talked about it on the way home (she started the topic)… she said she felt bad for the strikers, but she was already committed to bringing the family and the kids were so excited about it and she didn’t want to let them down.

So she does have a conscience. It’s just not as important to her to support the strikers as it is to try to give the family a fun time.

We also talked about how only the Buena Park location is on strike and even the New Jersey location (which is also union) isn’t on strike, which is weird. And how the other locations aren’t supporting their fellow workers and how that sucks too. If the company isn’t hurting, a strike isn’t going to do anything except prove to the company and non-union employees that the union has no power.

We talked about how these aren’t just actors, they’re skilled horsemen and animal caretakers and that deserves more than just $18/hour. She agreed.

It was actually a good teaching moment for us to talk to her peacefully about union solidarity etc. and she at least thought about it for once.

So it all turned out ok. Relationships intact, conversations were had without fighting. Which is all I can ask for in this day and age.

[–] bighatchester@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But drag shows are so much fun ! Last year I got to go backstage with a couple of drag queens from Canada's drag race and one of them fake murdered me on stage to the Keshia sound cannibal

[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

That’s rad.

[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 18 points 1 year ago

I think it's reasonable to go reluctantly. I think it's also reasonable to politely decline to attend. Tell your wife and in-laws to enjoy themselves, but politely explain that attending would violate your deeply held beliefs.

We all run into these kinds of situations occasionally. Turning down a meal due to dietary restrictions, refusing to perform an action due to a religious obligation, etc. Ideally, your wife should understand, and your in-laws don't need to. It really depends what your wife is willing to support.

[–] grasshopper_mouse@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can the tickets be changed to a later date?

It's not too late. Stick to your guns and refuse to go. Make Grandma take the kids herself while you and the wife stay home and enjoy some alone time.

All things considered, I realize you have to pick your battles where in-laws are concerned, so good luck. If you don't put your foot down with her now though, when will you, if ever?

I can't really think of any way to make amends to the employees on strike. Maybe go back later with some snacks and water or something, but at the end of the day, if you go to the show, you're prioritizing your shitty mother-in-law's lack of compassion and morals over workers making a decent wage/benefits.

[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You’re right. It sucks.

[–] half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Give a donation to the picketers, maybe same or more than the tickets. Don't need to make a point about it, but talk to kids and wife.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I think you have a good compromise of donating to their cause. Personally I wouldn't have gone and had a talk with my kids about the importance of standing up for your beliefs (and sorry if you want to go anyway, you're not old enough to drive). Even if the money's been spent I wouldn't go as it still hurts the moral of strikers and reinforces the scabs decision to cross the line.

[–] seathru@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's always the explosive diarrhea excuse.

Or see how long it takes to get kicked out for proselytizing to the other patrons about the strike.

Whatever you do, at least look the strikers in the eyes as you walk past.

[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I shook hands with the strikers outside and said I was sorry, and that I would donate to the strike fund. My kids were really looking forward to this and are too excited.

[–] seathru@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Good on you. I'm looking forward to the performance quality update.

[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Apparently the scabs are from other non-union Medieval Times locations (trained etc.) so the show was a “normal” show. No mishaps or anything, which is fine, I don’t want anyone to get hurt.

Lighting was normal but sound was atrocious. Just too loud and too hard to understand the queen and her counselor and what their whole banter was about.

Food was good.

[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago
[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What can I do to make amends?

Be a good person, try to do the right thing, be a positive influence in the world

[–] SheDiceToday@eslemmy.es 1 points 1 year ago

That's a really long way to say "stink bomb."

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What kind of scabs do you hire for a jousting tournament?

[–] half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Med time people from other non-union locations. It's been reported the scabs are getting a higher rate, hotel, and other per diem benefits. On top of bringing in green people who haven't done a horse tumble.

[–] Neato@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oof. Hope they get workers comp too.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 year ago

Insurance, in America? No, when the ambulance leaves the arena, Modern Times begin.

[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Hungry actors from the country who didn't make it big in Hollywood?

Seriously though, I'm actually kind of interested in how much training and OSHA and insurance there is in this business to start with.

As for OP, you can do a bunch of things to support their strike, probably. Tell people you know this is happening and why it's a problem, leave the business a review on Google about it with whatever rating you desire, email the union and donate to any strike fund pool they might have. Even an hour of your wages/time spent helping them out will likely be of greater value than the percentage of the ticket price they would have received from you. And I'm sure they'll be excited to know someone other than themselves cares enough to do something to support them.

[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Amazing how many downvotes these comments are getting.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Stand up half way through the show, and scream "everybody remember these are scabs that crossed a picket line!!!!"

And walk out, before they escort you out :p

Original: "everybody remember these are scanned that crossed a pocket line!!!!"

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They'd take you straight to a padded cell if you screamed gibberish like that.

In case you edit and I sound like the crazy one, here's what you said to scream:

“everybody remember these are scanned that crossed a pocket line!!!”

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Lol didn't spell check sorry.