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So here we go again...

Please direct all comments and links regarding the actual VOTING to this thread.

Edit Confirmed, Mike Johnson is the next speaker after running the table of all present and voting Republicans, 220 to Hakeem Jeffries 209.

If you'd like to know more about Mike Johnson, here's a good link:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/25/who-is-mike-johnson-republican-2020-election

I'll leave this pinned for 24 hours so everyone can catch up, then take it down.

1st vote count is in:

Hakeem Jeffries - 212 (217 needed to win)
Jim Jordan - 200
Steve Scalise - 7
Kevin McCarthy - 6
"Others" - 7

Jordan could have only lost 4 votes, he lost 20.

2nd vote:

Jeffries - 212
Jordan - 199
Scalise - 7
McCarthy - 5
Zeldin - 3
"Others" - 7 (one each)

Edit 3rd vote is in, House in recess.

Jeffries - 210
Jordan - 194
Scalise - 8
McHenry - 6
Zeldin - 4
Donalds - 2
McCarthy - 2
"Others" - 3 (1 each)

Matt Gaetz has vowed to oppose expanding the powers for McHenry:

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4265284-gaetz-will-do-everything-possible-stop-empowering-mchenry/

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[–] Veedem@lemmy.world 97 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The guy described HIMSELF as “David Duke without the baggage.” I’ve never seen a word do as much lifting as the word “baggage” as he used it.

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I really want to know, what's left when you take away the baggage from "David Duke".

Did he have any redeeming qualities?

[–] Techmaster@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It reminds me of that Christopher Hitchens quote. "If you gave Jerry Falwell an enema, you could bury him in a matchbox."

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Failed politician and former Grand Wizard of the KKK.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So if you consider the Grand Wizard as the baggage, that leaves us with "failed politician." If you consider failed politician as the baggage, that leaves the KKK.

So he's a bright star for maga dumb-dumbs either way.

[–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I consider the baggage to be the fact that people know David Duke was racist. Had they not known about the racism, he would not have baggage.

I think that is what Scalice was saying. He's like David Duke except not everyone knows how racist he is.

[–] thisisawayoflife@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He was the 1970s inspiration for men to wear really tight, closely-cut jean cutoff shorts.

[–] DaMonsterKnees@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I see ya down here, bud, and I liked the cut of your jib.

[–] ForestOrca@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

David Duke https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Duke - The first sentence: "David Ernest Duke (born July 1, 1950) is an American politician, white supremacist, antisemitic conspiracy theorist, and former grand wizard of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan."

[–] capital@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

You’re one internet search away from knowing.

Guarantee if you search that with no other context, the first result will be the right one.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago (5 children)

So, the Republican Party is down with the KKK. The mask is off, isn't it?

Will the "liberal media" please catch up?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good people on both sides...

[–] LarryTheMatador@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's only one person who deserves to be speaker.

HAKEEEEEEEEM JEFFRIES!

[–] negativenull@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

with a nice backup of Jamie Raskin

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Scalise beat Jordan 113-99.

Democrats unanimously renominated House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y.,

To win the gavel, a candidate needs support from a majority of the House members present, meaning the eventual speaker will need 217 votes if every one of the current members votes and does so for a candidate by name. There are currently 433 members, with two vacancies, so a majority is 217.

If members are absent, or if some vote present instead of supporting a candidate, that decreases what the majority vote needs to be. The House is intended to have a total membership of 435 members, so a majority is usually 218.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm looking forward to watching the Democrats stay united behind Jeffries for every single vote. Again.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago
[–] thisisawayoflife@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Steve Scalise barely beat Jim Jordan, who *if I'm not mistaken, is the guy that helped cover up a bunch of sexual abuse? That Jim Jordan?

[–] oracle3102@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Jim Jordan is the sexual abuse cover up guy at OSU. Scalise is the blatant white supremacist who speaks at hate group events (see European-American Unity and Rights Organization which was founded by David Duke who used to head the KKK) and also compared himself to David Duke.

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[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It's a long shot, but Moderate Republicans and McCarthy supporters could cast a vote for Democrat Jefferies as a FU to the Freedom Caucus. They would likely be able to get things done as a result.

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Honestly, I'm really don't understand why this didn't happen last time.

Surely there have to be a few Republicans in Blue leaning districts that just barely got voted in and are at risk of losing their seat next election.

There is just so much to gain by putting country above party under those circumstances.

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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

That will never happen. It's much more likely IMHO for Democrats to throw some votes at a moderate Republican to get them over the line. Not Kevin, probably not Steve Scalise.

Becoming Speaker is only part of the story, though. The Speaker sets the agenda (meaning the day's schedule) but that agenda is subject to a vote and needs a majority every single time. So any Democrats who support a Republican (or vice versa) would have to be relied on to vote in favor of that speaker's scheduling, otherwise nothing can be scheduled.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Reptorian@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You all should see the picture in "Jim Jordan fails to win the speakership on first ballot" at CNN. Absolutely hilarious.

Oh man, my day has absolutely been brightened.

EDIT: Here, I'll try posting a picture:

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I tried my best.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jeffries is still closer to Speaker than Jim Jordan.

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There we go! One of the Dems had the balls to call him what he is. A fucking insurrectionist. Fuck Gym Jorden and the Republican party.

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[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jordan says he's going to keep trying. $10 says he actually loses votes as this goes on

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[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Johnson, one of the most conservative options imaginable, won probably because Republicans were sick of the chaos.

They are currently in the fuck around phase, and when it comes time to do the budget, will find out. Johnson will either trigger a shutdown and get all the blame onto the Republicans by refusing to compromise (and further prove the crazies have taken over the party) or he'll get a deal with Democrats and then Gaetz will yeet him again.

I give it until... Dec 1. Until speaker elections begin again.

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[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Someone fill me in. I don't know shit about this guy.

I'm watching the vote live, and the in-video chat are all saying the guy is an election denier, full blown MAGA, and would promote a government shutdown. If this is the case, MAGA wins and will be emboldened to pull this shit again and again, knowing that they'll get their way in the end because the moderates of the party will eventually cave.

Good luck getting any kind of debt ceiling bill passed. This guy isn't gonna cut a backroom deal to get a bill passed knowing full well that they'll just hold another motion to vacate the minute they even sniff him trying.

EDIT: Yup, full blown MAGA. Swallows the Trump mushroom dick right down to the balls. MAGA wins. They have officially taken over the GOP.

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder if Scalise can beat McCarthy's record fifteen votes? I'll bet he can!

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[–] negativenull@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/10/11/us/house-speaker-vote-news

Speaker ElectionHouse Delays Vote on Speaker After G.O.P. Nominates Steve Scalise

It became clear after the No. 2 Republican in the House won a secret ballot to become his party’s nominee that he did not have the votes to win the gavel.

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[–] negativenull@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Groundhog day:

The House adjourned without a vote for a new speaker. The Republican caucus have not reached the necessary 217 votes within the conference to elect Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH), who leads in the GOP with 152 in favor. [link]

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[–] Furedadmins@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Kowtowing to terrorists has worked so well for everyone that has ever tried. Good job Republicans!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

The jackals at Fawx News have only themselves to blame. They fed the beast that has ate their party.

[–] monkey@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Will Jordan drop out so that the next, somehow even less popular, Republican can try?

[–] Midnight@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 year ago

My day is made immeasurably better by Jim Jordan's failure. This entertainment is surely the best thing he's ever done for the country.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Looks like Jordan lost the first round.

Who knew that "know-nothing" applied to whipping your own vote?

jim jordan: this is the worst day of my life

kevin mccarthy: the worst day of your life so far

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