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[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Short answer is entropy. The long answer is that to be alive we need to sustain a series of very complex processes going and failures and mistakes accumulate over time until that's not possible. Reproduction is the only mechanism that allows resetting all those processes.

But in the end even planets, stars and even atoms will "die".

[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 3 points 1 year ago

We sure can live longer than a meager 80 years though.

Check out sens.org.

[–] demystify@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't there a type of medusa that can "rebirth" itself and essentially live forever? Why can't we?

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago

Jellyfishes are much simpler than mammals. And modern medicine can effectively bring people back from the dead in some cases when the damage is not too extensive and doctors can act fast enough. But even if you could repair severe damage to any dead human being to make them alive again, the lost information in the brain caused by dying would mean they wouldn't effectively be the same person - we already have some cases like that when people survive significant brain trauma.

[–] kozel@szmer.info 8 points 1 year ago

The death was a gift from Eru to humans, like the immortality was to elves. It's Melkor's mischiefs, why we do fear it. (Source: elven stories.)

[–] Hanabie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

We don't have the medical treatment yet. But we're getting close.

[–] tourist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I can give you a few reasons for my divorce court judge specifically

Nothing that moves can run on nothing. It needs a cause. And when that cause dies, so too does the effect.

joke: obby 1

my belief: you are a ghost?

[–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Not sure why this post is getting so much hate

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For all we know this is only our first stage of life and we transition into a being of pure energy as we leave our body.

[–] Lux@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For all we know unicorns exist and walk on rainbows

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

My anti-lion spray is certainly working wonders. Haven’t seen a lion since starting to use it.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Shhhh we don't talk about that part in public.

[–] breathless_RACEHORSE@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Because no one would treasure a truly eternal life.

[–] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agree to disagree. I know many people think this way, but honestly eternal or much prolonged life would boost out progress as a species significantly.

Imo there's so much to do and see, idk how you'd burn out like people predict.

Also worst case, legalise assisted suicide past a certain age (and for certain diagnoses either way) so folks can check out.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imo there's so much to do and see, idk how you'd burn out like people predict.

I'm burnt out already and I'm not even middle age.

[–] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

That's not the way I meant that lol.
I'm speaking purely hypothetical utopian best case scenario here. In theory, just like with robots and ai (lol), advancements could mean less work per individual, leaving much more time for learning, creating, exploring.
realistically though, Musk would probably soon monopolize oxygen or some shit.

[–] morgan_423@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You could argue that people would burn out on eternity, but I doubt you could make the same argument for life extension / stopping of aging. People would be free to live for a long time, and when each person decides it's enough, one can check out voluntarily.

[–] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Exactly what I mean too. Voluntarily checking out should be an option in that system.