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[–] Dmian@lemmy.world 149 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

The only acceptable number, but not only in Europe, everywhere, is “0”.

And if you already don’t know why: a billionaire has way too much money and power, and can influence governments in their favor, creating unsurmountable inequality and subverting the system’s rules. Billionaires are the cause why capitalism is failing (and since no one can stop them now, it will completely fail, and will drag the environment, and human survival, with it).

[–] occhineri@feddit.de 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, but capitalism isn't failing: billionaires ARE capitalism

[–] Dmian@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When I say capitalism is failing is because for it to work, it need rules (offer/demand, competition without monopolies, etc), that these billionaires have eliminated or subverted. They changed the game rules in their favor, and are now so powerful it’s impossible to stop them (non violently, I mean). I honestly think we just entered a dark era of humanity, one in which its existence is in question. And yes, I’m a pessimist, but I try to be optimistic with all my might, but everything I see or read prevents me from being optimistic.

[–] occhineri@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

When I say capitalism is failing is because for it to work, it need rules

Because it is unstable. It is much easier to disrupt the system than to balance it in a stable-like state against it's nature. Capitalism has gotten out of hand and will collapse sooner or later. And no: I am not a pessimist

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[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 51 points 1 year ago

I think the better comparison would be the number of billionaires per capita. Say, per million people. Not that this isn’t a good infographic - keep the overall count. But include the per capita as a frequency-of-occurrence stat.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 50 points 1 year ago (3 children)

We need an EU wide 100% wealth tay for any wealth over say 15million€. I am willing to negotiate about the second number.

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Tay them all!

[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So anyone who gets a certain amount of money might as well close all the companies they own?

[–] storcholus@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago

Maybe not 15 million, but let's say at 100 million you get a dog park named after you with a statue that says you won at capitalism

[–] Kiliyukuxima@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Or give them to the employees or something. Probably 15M is a too low threshold to enforce that but it would work. It would basically distribute the wealth amongst the people who produce it

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[–] CPMSP@midwest.social 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Lemonyoda@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didnt knew this Graph but damn..

And this is why you could tax them at 80 or even 90% and they would still have more money than 90% of the rest of the population of earth.

[–] brlemworld@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

That's a lot of food to eat. Better get started.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trickle down economics works like a piñata. Once you break it open with blunt force, the stuff you want starts to trickle down!

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] Jakylla@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Only 3 in Monaco ? *suspicious*

[–] root_beer@midwest.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

There’s some bookkeeping sorcery going on there, gotta be

Also: why’s it yellow? It’s got 3, so it should be green

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[–] galoisghost@aussie.zone 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That’s a lot of guillotines

[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

Even if we had to use a private submarine for each one it would still be worth it

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 3 points 1 year ago

Be environmentally minded please and follow the three R’s. In this case we simply reuse the same guilotine.

[–] taladar@feddit.de 26 points 1 year ago

It would make more sense to use per capita numbers.

[–] Frittiert@feddit.de 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

These are eatable numbers

[–] nodimetotie@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Am I the only one who finds the color scheme unintuitive? (a comment more suitable for DataIsBeautiful, probably)

[–] corship@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's a barrier free color scheme. I like it tbh

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

It’s important to remember that while all billionaires are bastards, some are just evil because they take value they neither earned nor need, meanwhile others got rich off being the family whose spat between cousins was WWI and are actively working to undermine left wing and pro equality movements literally today including conspiring to push bigotry towards lgbt people to distract from the class war

[–] Blaubarschmann@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago

Is this based on nationality (defined as: has that nations passport) or billionaires actually living in that country? Because probably many billionaires don't live in their home country or pay taxes there

[–] lou_profile@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Portugal's only billionaire might be Abramovich, who gained PT nationality through a very dubious program

[–] botorfj@lemdro.id 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

didn't know we had so many billionaires!

[–] Acters@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How the fuck is there so many and can we eat some?

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[–] Vinny_93@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Another reason why Portugal is doing it right

[–] pgp@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Not really, we might have only one billionaire, but all the millionaires are very greedy, as well as the upper clear as a whole. Combining that greed with the sky rocketing cost of living, mainly due to digital nomads and airbnb, we're certainly not an example. Just a collapse waiting to happen.

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[–] Lemmchen@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The one billionair in Estonia:

[–] genfood@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 7 points 1 year ago

It's John Travolta in pulp fiction looking around not finding anyone

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Surprising that monaco "only" has 3 billionaires.

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