Nsfw, Nsfl, and "Porn"
I like nsfw memes but dont want my feed full of porn. I have a seperate account for porn.
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Yes, a renaissance artwork that contains naked women, actual hardcore porn, and a Russian soldier being blown to pieces in Ukraine, should not occupy the same "NSFW" tag...
Of course there's going to be grey area stuff, but 3 buckets like this is much much better than a single "everything people might not want to see" bucket.
But all the sfw porn subs ruined it.
Need a new tag like “sexporn” or “genitals”
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I feel like the lines at that point get way too blurred. It would be like having a "porn" and "full blown porn" tag or hardcore versus softcore.
I will admit a distinct NSFW tag could be good for somewhat taboo stuff like mildly offensive jokes for example.
Would be kind of hilarious. You can have one normal tag like "serious" is for ask lemmy, then a million tags like soft core, forced, NSFL, etc...
Like the fediverse would be catering to SO MUCH PORN at that point
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How do you actually find porn on Lemmy? I've tried and failed.
Apparently lemmynsfw.com.
But it's mostly celebrity pics, so I'm not entirely sure where else.
You're only seeing celebrity pics because that is the only SFW community on lemmynsfw. By default most lemmy instances hide NSFW posts unless you're logged in with an account set to show NSFW. They are running 0.18.3-nsfwpatch, so if you navigate there directly you will see everything, but viewing lemmynsfw logged out from another instance will only show you celebrity pictures.
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You need to enable 'NSFW' content in settings, which probably requires an account. Without that, you just see 'SFW' content (on feeds, at least), which is as you describe
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Or just copy Mastodon and do content warnings. They're a lot more versatile.
How so, for those of us who are avoidant of other places?
I'm confused on what your question is
A content warning tag is similar to a spoiler tag, but you can fill out the warning yourself. So you could type something like "movie ending spoiler" or on Mastodon you'll see considerate triggers like "TW: suicide" for various trigger warnings.
Which the ability for that makes more sense then having multiple individual tags. Also ActivityPub supports it already anyways, and it works nicely on Mastodon
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https://github.com/Neshura87/Lemmy-RFC/
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Not Safe for Work versus Not Safe for Life?
I haven't seen anything gorey here, luckily. I would much rather see an automatic video tag for both titles and comments. Kind of sick of opening YouTube unintentionally.
I regularly see videos and images from the war in Ukraine on lemmy. It is marked as NSFW, and blurred, so it looks nearly identical at a glance to content that is NSFW due to sexual content.
I would prefer if those two things were visually distinct in the interface.
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RIGHT!?!?! Like I hate taking a gamble on whether I'll see an infected maggot ridden foot or a big breasted cat girl turning into a Willy Wonka blueberry.
At least I did on Reddit, I can't get the porn to show up on Lemmy outside of one or two completely dead instances I have to go out of my way for.
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Absolutely. Throwing everything that you may not want to open at work in with hardcore porn as an all-or-nothing view choice is incredibly shortsighted.
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Where even are you seeing gore? I left Reddit a while back and I miss eyeblech.
There's plenty of combat footage in the various combat footage and Ukraine related communities.
Just do NSFW and PORN.
Porn is the reason for wanting a distinction, so don't beat around the bush.
No, the NSFL tag is more important imo. I don't mind seeing tits randomly, I do not wanna see gore ever, period.
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I think gore as well. Things can be nsfw but also not gore.
at that point it'd probably be better to just have a CW system like Mastodon
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That’s not what the terms are aimed at though? NSFW covers a very broad range of things. You expect it to be pork 95% of the time, so it already means that. The main thing people want to separate are things like gore, death, racism, etc. So that’s what is being asked for. Separate links out because a NSFL link should seldom be clicked on but imo deserves to exist for discussion and calling out people on legitimate issues.
I was never a fan of the “death porn” put on Reddit but I do appreciate the real and unsanitized reality of some situations when the news can’t show them.
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NSFW and NSFL can mean different things to different people and cultures.
Best example is that in some countries, showing a boob isn't straight away NSFW as much as it is in America.
Opposite example: In America, showing blood is almost G rated at this point (at least it feels that way to a non-American watching American media). In China you effectively can't show blood in any media.
As has been mentioned in the comments already one solution would be more specific categories, probably customizable by site admins to suit their particular site culture. Either that or a site can stick to just a single NSFW tag to donate a more "hey, this might not be the best thing to look at".
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I can see many people in the comments mentioning various levels of specificity for the tags. I think porn and gore should perhaps have a tag each. Maybe one or two more categories, but having too many would complicate posting on Lemmy a lot. For example, whether or not to put a politics tag may be ambiguous in some cases. I'm not sure about historical artwork, as there are situations where it's normal to be viewing it. There are also some works that I'd rather not be seen looking at in all places: some of that stuff got weird. Not to mention: people marking things NSFW as a joke just confuses things further.
I never noticed it being a big problem though. I think just having one, two , maybe three different tags at most and letting communities play it by ear would work fine.
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