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California Gov. Gavin Newsom has signed a law requiring K-12 schools to provide gender-neutral bathrooms by July 2026.

The new law, Senate Bill 760, was among a series of laws signed by Newsom Saturday to expand protections for the state’s LGBTQ community.

“California is proud to have some of the most robust laws in the nation when it comes to protecting and supporting our LGBTQ+ community,” Newsom said in a statement.

Under the law, “each school district, county office of education, and charter school” would be required to have at least one gender-neutral bathroom on campus on or before July 1, 2026. The bathroom must be available for use during school hours and during school functions when students are present, the law states.

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[–] Octavio@lemmy.world 110 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I went to a gender neutral restroom in California a couple months ago. Each toilet was in its own little private room, and there was a common area of sinks for hand washing. My only thought was that all public restrooms should be like that. Even apart from the equal access issue for LGBTQ+ people, why make one gender stand in line when there are unused facilities right next door.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly, I just like the privacy anyways. Who wants to make eye contact with someone through the 1in gap in the stall doors?

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[–] Player2@sopuli.xyz 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah it’s literally just better for everyone

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

Except for those who desperately want to hurt people they don't like.

[–] TheMinions@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Recently went to Paris, and most toilets were like this. It was fantastic.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

My only thought was that all public restrooms should be like that.

Agrreed. Sadly, "arrow doesn't turn".

[–] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am passionate about gendered bathrooms. Sorry ladies, you take far too long to pee.

/s

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[–] populustree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 1 year ago (7 children)

i never really got the whole separated toilets thing anyway, it's a toilet, do your thing and skedaddle

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 47 points 1 year ago

we need to redesign toilet stalls to be more private anyways

[–] Kage520@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (11 children)

My biggest reason for wanting separate bathrooms is the propensity for women to squat and spray the seat. I know guys can make a mess too but usually the women's restroom is dirtier than men's. Also women's restroom is more likely to have a line.

But I'm sure building-wise it would be easier to just make one big bathroom so it should probably be that way, long as it's big enough.

[–] maporita@unilem.org 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In areas with lots of people it's also about efficiency. Single stall toilets don't work at a train station. A better option is to have two toilets .. one with urinal and one without. Use whichever one you want.

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[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

You mean you don't have signs up in your house for your guests to direct them to entirely different bathrooms?

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[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Disabled, my favorite gender

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[–] bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Disabled toilets are already gender neutral, I guess they'll just stick another sign on the door?

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

only if they're single-occupant bathrooms. which. for schools... are usually not going to be the case. personally, that should be the solution. just rip out both bathrooms, install single occupant cells. nobody cares what you are. the only sign needed is an 'occupied'/'vacant' on the latch.

(edit: well, you'd still have to have a placard with braille on it so blind people can know what kind of room it is.)

[–] colforge@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most of the disabled stalls I’ve encountered (at least in the US) are within the gendered bathrooms. So even if the stall is nominally gender neutral one first has to enter the men’s room or women’s room.

[–] bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Ah, in the UK the disabled ones are separate and you need a key

[–] darq@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So much of the online bathroom discussion makes more sense when one realises that US public restroom designs are insane.

[–] colforge@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah here in the good ol (hahahaha) USA most establishments have a separate “restroom” for men and women which consist of a row of sinks for washing up and a number of stalls for toilets (and urinals in men’s rooms of course).

Sometimes the urinals are just in a row on the wall with no dividers between. But there’s usually one or two disabled stalls as well, although they’re not locked in any way.

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[–] iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It really was just a regular bathroom all along.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

The gender neutral bathroom was inside here the whole time.

[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Under the law, “each school district, county office of education, and charter school” would be required to have at least one gender-neutral bathroom on campus on or before July 1, 2026.

Whut?? Why not just make them all human restrooms? How does it takes two+ years to switch some signage and inform people to use whatever door they wish?

I've been living in a city with "gender-neutral" restrooms for so long that I forget what it used to be like. Well, aside from sports and entertainment complexes.

[–] mxcory@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago

They may want to allow time for remodeling instead of just new signage. Maybe better stalls for actual privacy. I hate the typical stall I see in the US.

[–] iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Moron politics. They only get shit done that doesn't really matter for good looks.

Essentially I guess this was needed for redneck morons to know they can use the same bathroom as anyone else because they aren't extra special....

(This post isn't anti lgbtq+)

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[–] TacoThrash3r@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

Can we just have a pee bathroom and a poop bathroom?

[–] steltek@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Important consequence of this in the context of elementary schools: most little boys don't lift up the seat when they pee and their aim is atrocious. At my kids' school, the gender neutral bathrooms are the toilets of last resort.

[–] Rayspekt@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (21 children)

So there will stil be regular male/female toilets? In the end I'm kinda whatever about this as long as it's not used as an excuse to remove urinals.

[–] Old_Dude@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Yes, every gender neutral bathroom I've seen here at elementary schools and college campuses have single occupancy gender neutral bathroom/s next to the men's and women's bathrooms.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

if all the bathrooms are neutral there's no need to have " regular bathrooms"

[–] bobman@unilem.org 3 points 1 year ago

I don't think that's what he was asking.

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[–] fmwp1lrU@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Can we adopt the It's always sunny sign instead?

"Animal Shit House"

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