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Conference fails to approve procedural motion to take up defense spending bill as government shutdown looms

The House Republican speaker, Kevin McCarthy, was dealt his second humiliating defeat of the week on Thursday, when his conference again failed to approve a procedural motion as members continued to clash over government spending levels with just days left to avert a federal shutdown.

With no clear path forward in Republicans’ negotiations, the House concluded its work on Thursday without any stated plan to reconvene on Friday.

“Discussions related to [fiscal year 2024] appropriations are ongoing,” Congressman Tom Emmer, the House Republican whip, said in a statement. “Members are advised that ample notice will be given ahead of any potential votes tomorrow or this weekend.”

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[–] flossdaily@lemmy.world 248 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

McCarthy: "hard-right Republicans want to burn the whole place down!"

Moderate Democrats: "so you'll work with us instead, to pass legislation that keeps the lights on, and addresses some of the problems we both agree exist?"

McCarthy: "No. Fuck you. Die in a fire."

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 65 points 1 year ago

Exactly. The path forward is clear. Work with moderate Democrats to craft a bipartisan spending bill that most Democrats and Republicans can agree upon. Well either side get everything it wants? No, but that's how compromise works.

Of course the Freedom Caucus will be angry, but let's face it - they're always angry. (Hulk Smash makes for a good movie, but not for good politics.) If McCarthy works with Democrats and the saner Republicans, though, the power of the Freedom Caucus will be blunted. They can file to remove McCarthy all they like, but part of the deal with the Democrats could be that they'll vote to keep McCarthy.

Instead, McCarthy will complain while hoping that the Freedom Caucus members suddenly become reasonable.

[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Pretty much.

Whine as he may. The effect is still the same.

Still all one big family even if some of them say the quiet parts out loud.

[–] 520@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He is completely beholden to the far right. The approval votes by the far right were what got him just about enough votes to get him into Speakership. If they turn on him, he'll be kicked out for sure.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not if he can get Democrat votes. He can work with them and gain their votes to keep his position.

[–] 520@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If he tries that, even the moderate republicans will pull their votes for him.

Also, even if that somehow did work, the Democrats will likely then pull their votes because they want a Democrat as speaker. The Democrats might not be Republicans, but they sure as hell are not above this kind of partisanship

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

If he does that he'll be removed as speaker.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Moderate Democrats: “so you’ll work with us instead, to pass legislation that keeps the lights on, and addresses some of the problems we both agree exist?”

Uhhh, isn't that kind of what McCarthy actually did? He worked closely with President Biden to put this budget together and it seems to be a big reason why the Freedom Caucus morons are pitching a fit.

[–] flossdaily@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Not at all. McCarthy got the deal he thought he could sell to his team.

McCarthy working with the Democrats in Congress would mean getting a deal way more Democrat friendly, and forgetting about even trying to appease the freedom Caucus.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 101 points 1 year ago

Really Kev?

Please go on about how impossible it is to work with incorrigible dipshits who don't care about functioning government.

That must be so hard to deal with! Their refusal to negotiate in good faith must be soooo infuriating, huh Kev? It must be so frustrating to try and get a deal done and then have legislative arsonists burn the whole fuggin' thing down.

Right Kevin?!

[–] gastationsushi@lemmy.world 92 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The cult of Reagan complaining how the cult of Trump won't work with others. The missing subtext being the cult of Reagan refusing to work with anyone not in a cult. A tale as old as 2016

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Man politics has gotten so silly and commercialized that it's closest analog to me is professional wrestling. All of American politics is basically rich people trying to sell the kayfabe that their audience wants.

Libs pretend they're the good guys (face), and that they are here to save all the poors from the villains. But because they're all old rich people, it just seems fake and boring.

Conservatives get to do all the fun and cartoonishly evil (heel) shit. And because they're all actually evil fucks, it all sells as more authentic

My theory is that because there's a lot of Republicans trying to out heel each other, and because their kayfabe is more closely aligned with their political reality, a lot of them have forgotten that it's all kayfabe, or have grown up with it for so long they don't even know about the kayfabe.

[–] vagrantprodigy@lemmy.whynotdrs.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd compare it to religion and sports.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, I think that's kinda what the WWE is to some people.

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[–] ATQ@lemm.ee 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Always have.

👩‍🚀🔫👩‍🚀

[–] Ryantific_theory@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Can't complain about how the government doesn't work, if the government works.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago

Well yeah they campaigned on it. Is he new here?

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago

"I should know, I'm one of them!"

Republicans are learning what it's like to deal with Republicans, and surprise, they don't like it.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

Tell me you just read the Republican Party Platform without saying you just read the Republican Party Platform.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You invited them into the house and let them shit in your bed. Now lie on it.

[–] whygohomie@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago

They also broke in and shit up the place on Jan 6. Such fine people.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 year ago

Sadly they also shat in all of our beds. We're all going to be harmed by their actions. Sure, the republican party is going to face some large political issues, but all of us are going to be hurt by them.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, no kidding Kevin. That's your entire fucking party, though. Even the so-called "moderates" want extremely radical policies that are designed to ruin what this country is supposed to be about.

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[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 26 points 1 year ago

This is what happens when you acquiesce to the Jan 6er's who literally wanted to burn the place down.

McCarthy, you made your bed, and you made it out of anti-personnel mines. It’s time to lie down in it. You’ll get no sympathy from anyone. This was entirely predictable.

[–] cunning_bolt@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

No shit, he's just figuring that out, huh?

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

McCarthy, included. The piece of shit wouldn't even allow himself to be photographed with Zelenskyy and is playing straight into Putin's hand. Disgusting.

[–] This_Guy_Fawkes@infosec.pub 18 points 1 year ago

That's it. I am headed to DC with a ripe avocado in one hand, a piece of toast in the other, and a knife between my teeth.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

No shit, so ignore then like the crazy people screaming on the street corner you fucking idiot.

[–] Danc4498@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Nihilist? Yeah right. Either the Toddler party, the Bought Party(tm) or both.

[–] StarServal@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

They’re the contrarian party. They exist in a perpetual state of doing the opposite of Democrats and being angry about it.

[–] NegativeCool@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Nihilists? Fuck me...I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude. At least it's an ethos!

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

They're a reboot of the Know-Nothing Party

[–] ViewSonik@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Republicans doing everything they can to disrupt the lives of everyday Americans.

[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Come on Kevin. Time to fly to Mar-a-Lago and kiss the butt

[–] kitonthenet@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

thanks for getting wise to the politics of the republican party since 2010 kev!

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He was later quoted as saying "The Day after Thanksgiving is, in my opinion, one of the busiest shopping days of the year"

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Alternative headline: "Kevin discovers Pope is Catholic"

[–] rayyyy@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

The coup continues

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I mean, that's your whole party right now, I'm not sure what the expectation was.

[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah. He is 1 of them

[–] roofuskit@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah, they got that idea from you slightly less insane idiots.

[–] StarServal@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Professional dog layer complains of fleas.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Dog layer, is that like a dog fluffer?

That’s been quite obvious for at least 7 years now.

[–] Binthinkin@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

That’s just what F Tier Boss Babes and their F Tier Daddys do señor McCarthy, get a clue dingbat.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The House Republican speaker, Kevin McCarthy, was dealt his second humiliating defeat of the week on Thursday, when his conference again failed to approve a procedural motion as members continued to clash over government spending levels with just days left to avert a federal shutdown.

A proposal to take up House Republicans’ defense spending bill failed in a vote of 216 to 212, with five hard-right members joining Democrats in opposing the motion.

The defeat was interpreted as a dismal sign for House Republicans’ prospects of approving a separate stopgap spending bill before government funding runs out at the end of the month.

The Democratic House minority leader, Hakeem Jeffries, chastised his Republican colleagues over their internal divisions, accusing them of jeopardizing Americans’ wellbeing for the sake of a political stunt.

“Republicans in Congress can and must defund all aspects of Crooked Joe Biden’s weaponized Government that refuses to close the Border, and treats half the Country as Enemies of the State.”

The former president, who faces 91 criminal charges over election subversion, retention of classified information and hush-money payments, as well as assorted civil lawsuits, added: “This is also the last chance to defund these political prosecutions against me and other patriots.”


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