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[–] qooqie@lemmy.world 162 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

Waaaaaaay better privacy, faster than chrome, don’t need to worry about them killing mandatory add ons so they can push ads, also the add ons just work better but maybe that’s confirmation bias.

I’m sure there’s more I’m forgetting

[–] MudMan@kbin.social 41 points 1 year ago (7 children)

It is not really faster than Chrome, but hey, at least I don't have to manually opt out of monetizing my browsing history and my adblocker still works.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

not really faster than Chrome

Its also not really slower. If you are blocking plugins, it can be faster.

Its fast enough I think is the broader point.

[–] MudMan@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a weird pissing contest that still makes people angry for no reason, is what it is.

It's not the 90s, you're not trying to parse a bunch of tables on a creaking chunk of barely cooked sand. You're basically running standalone software through your browser anyway.

Honestly, the one performance thing that bothers me on any modern browser is that some extension in my stack somewhere is memory leaking and makes me restart Firefox to restore performance every few hours. Can't tell which one, but I need all of them, so hey, frequent reboots it is.

[–] Blake@feddit.uk 13 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Once it’s slower, hit F12 -> memory -> snapshot

Should be pretty easy to check out which extension has shitloads of storage. Then you can decide how to go from there - maybe contact the author?

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[–] lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone 150 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] Tibert@compuverse.uk 21 points 1 year ago

I don't use it because of mobile adblock only. There are multiple private chromium browsers which have mobile adblock, and also one supporting extensions : kiwi browser.

I use Firefox because it's a competing engine to chromium, and it looks good.

I also have all the synced bookmarks from my PC Firefox, which I use for the same reason, and because I got used to it.

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[–] N4CHEM@lemmy.ml 128 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Because it's the only browser not based on Google's Chromium rendering engine (Webview, WebKit? whatever). Using any other browser supports Google's monopoly over how we browse the internet and what we are allowed to see. No, fuck Google.

Edit: spelling

[–] rainerloeten@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just wanna add that one reason this monopoly is dangerous is that Google (could and nowadays) does use it to dictate "web standards". So e.g. they don't come anymore from organizations that develop standards but Google just forces their own standards by sheer power of market dominance.

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[–] mreiner@beehaw.org 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Technically, WebKit is Apple’s rendering engine (Safari).

Google uses Blink, which is a fork of WebKit, but is its own thing now.

So, you can still use Safari without directly contributing to Google’s de facto rendering engine monopoly.

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[–] icedterminal@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you're interested at all:

Google Chrome is a fork of the open source Chromium with several Google proprietary features. Chromium uses the Blink engine. Blink is a fork of a large component of WebKit called WebCore. Apple primarily develops WebKit (and by proxy WebCore), itself being a fork of KHTML and KJS which were actually discontinued this year.

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[–] FrankTheHealer@lemmy.world 114 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Because it's not Chrome

Because it's open source

Because I can get it on all my devices

Because I like the work Mozilla does

Because it's private and secure by default

[–] petersr@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Came here to say all of this, so thank you for saving me keystrokes :)

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 80 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] Rottcodd@lemmy.ninja 76 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because it's never let me down.

I started using it pretty much from the beginning and have never had a reason to stop. When Chrome came along, I thought the whole idea of using a browser made by Google was obviously awful, so I just kept using Firefox. And I'm still using it.

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[–] angrymouse@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because I'm not comfortable using a tool of a mega corporation trying to shape the internet to show more ads to ppl

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[–] Anti_Weeb_Penguin@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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[–] JSens1998@lemmy.ml 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Because it's one of the only remaining browsers (the other one being Safari) that doesn't run on Chromium. We must protect FireFox and Safari with our lives because if they die out then Google has a monopoly on the browser space. Not something anyone wants... I mean look at their Manifest V3, and web DRM controversies. They are trying to ruin the web. Don't let them people!

Plus, I just like the ability to customize the toolbar, and FireFox Sync is just brilliant for syncing between mobile and desktop!

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[–] Underpay@feddit.nl 39 points 1 year ago

It's FOSS, respects my privacy, doesn't try to kill my adblock and it's the only option that doesn't support a big evil monopoly

Chrome runs like garbage compared to Firefox, and this has always been the case for me. I didn't make the switch in 2008. I also had a bad feeling that Chrome would become the new IE with every other browser ditching their own rendering engine and basing on Chromium.

People back then said it was OK because Chromium is ostensibly open-source. Look where that got us. Surprise, it's still controlled by Google!

[–] h_a_r_u_k_i@programming.dev 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I just don't want to support the monopoly.

Also Firefox has been so tempting since the new engine written in Rust came out. It has a wide range of supporting add-ons.

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[–] chili1553@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think Firefox is a pretty cool guy. Eh has great add-ons and customization and doesn't afraid of anything

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[–] ryannathans@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 year ago

Works well

Extendable

Open source

Not chrome based

[–] Sooperstition@lemmy.one 27 points 1 year ago

Add-ons, it’s not chromium, and also I CAN BLOCK AUTOPLAY VIDEOS on it

[–] Sneptaur@pawb.social 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It’s open source, free, well maintained, and easy to set up and use.

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[–] llii@feddit.de 25 points 1 year ago

I lived through the IE6 days. I don't want one browser or engine or company to dominate the web. We need multiple implementations of free and open standards.

[–] debeluhar@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It has extensions support on mobile. I can't live without uBlock Origin. I installed Firefox on PC because of synching between Firefox on PC and Firerox and Android. I now stopped using this feature, but I kept using Firefox. I only use Chrome when pages don't open correctly on Firefox.

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[–] TheWoozy@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Stable, fast, excellent ecosystem, and it's the ONLY trustworthy browser available.

[–] weariedfae@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It used to be 90% habit, 10% Firefox not being run by a mega corporation.

Now it is 49% habit, 51% the smug satisfaction of being right this whole time, even when people bitched about it being bloated on the back end.

Nyah.

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[–] moose_cannon@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Everything is chrome except Firefox.

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[–] TheMadnessKing@lemdro.id 21 points 1 year ago

Doesn't wake up one day and decide to DRM the Web or kill the adblcker.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 year ago (5 children)

When Opera 12 died. Fuck chromium. Fuck Vivaldi. Firefox is the only legit non-chromium browser.

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[–] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Main reason is that I can use my own sync server, I don't trust Google nor Mozilla to store my passwords, bookmarks and history, etc. but I trust myself.

Second reason is that it's the only non Webkit related browser left after IE, Opera gave up on their own rendering engine, so once Google decides to implement anti-features there is almost no way around it anymore. I like to think that if at least I use it, it will somehow stay relevant enough that the W3C can keep existing and Google needs at least engage in some kind of conversation about their anti-features instead of just implementing them and forcing it on everyone automatically.

Third, uBlock origin works very well, even on my Android mobile phone.

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[–] theostermanweekend@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago

Not Chrome and Not MS. Simple.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] zerbey@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

I've tried every other browser, and I keep coming back to Firefox because it's reliable, has a low memory footprint, and isn't run by some evil corporation.

No more cookie popups or banners

Back to the old internet kind of vibes when all that shit got canned

[–] baatliwala@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I switched around 2007 (I think it was Firefox 2 or 3?) because IE didn't have tabs, and then just stuck with it because it was extremely customisable and really fucking good. I never found a reason to switch.

At that time I didn't care much about the privacy/open source aspect of it but in today's world it's definitely a big plus.

[–] jetsetdorito@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's the best mobile browser with bottom address bar

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[–] orphiebaby@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

Even without the politics of it all (which are good), Firefox is flexible and customizable. Chromium is an ugly, inflexible piece of shit from 2006 that relies on the same bloated list menus and doesn't really let you do anything with it. Come at me, Chrome fanboys.

[–] DarthSpot@feddit.de 16 points 1 year ago

On mobile: because of addon support (aka because of ad-block) On desktop: Open Source, "It's not chrome", it feels snappier than alternatives, it has good Linux/Wayland support, customizability and the biggest reason - habit. I started using Firefox when there was no Chrome.

[–] halfempty@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

Chrome, and it's relatives like Edge, are no longer an option, so I use Firefox.

[–] riley0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] Otome-chan@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's the only non-chrome browser. And the only browser I can customize and that does what I want. I've been waiting for arc to release so I can try it out, but it seems like the development on it is taking literally forever.

I have pretty strict criteria for a browser, and really only firefox meets them. Chrome is way too locked down for me. And firefox has slowly been getting worse unfortunately.

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[–] lemmyBeHere@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (8 children)
  1. We should not let google take over the internet

  2. It works just as well as chrome

  3. It has proper vertical tab extensions, like tree style tabs

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[–] blkpws@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago

It has good plugins, like containers, to keep cookies separated to normal browsing or others sessions.

[–] riley0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago

manifest v3

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