Microsoft as usual trying to make a Swiss Army knife where none of the tools work as intended
this post was submitted on 13 Sep 2023
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Is everybody really out there doing arithmetic in their start menu search bar? Calc.exe is a click or hotkey away.
Calc.exe is a click or hotkey away.
The Start Menu is already there, no hotkey setup required. Plus, I can close it with a single key too. It's simply more convenient.
If you say so. I think having to wait for the latency of the web search to come back would drive me up the wall if I tried your method.
Win+number row are hotkeys for your taskbar favorites. No explicit setup is required other than having your taskbar favorites ordered how you want them. Pressing the hotkey will open the program if it's closed, focus the program if it's in the background, or minimize the program if it's focused.
I mean technically I do that, but mine doesn't do a web search (linux) so it's not equivalent anyway. It is very convenient tho
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To this day, I still launch the calculator with win+R then "calc" enter.
Basically muscle memory at this point
For me it's win "calc" enter.
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Neither option is convenient for me. So I just have a calculator next to me just in case.
...yes? The spotlight/quick search tool is stupid useful. Everything is just a quick alt-space and a type away
I've been using Synapse on Linux for years and Windows powertoys is way better than this nonsense (which is super confusing because that's also an official Microsoft programme. Why do they have a superior version of their search that you have to seperately download?)
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Not to mention it takes like 10 seconds to load and has completely random predictions
Nah. Most brain dead thing it does is when you search for something, and it brings up no results, so you remove the last letter and your results pop up.
Or when it refuses to show something you know exists on the computer until you enter the exact full file path
That's why I use Flow Launcher with the Everything plugin (now integrated on the Explorer).
Everything is an absolute godsend to deal with Windows' shitty indexer.
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Or you press enter to open it, and instead the list changes and it opens something unrelated
This happens to me on Instagram and it makes me want to commit atrocities.
Another reason to not use windows.
Nothing like fueling the Linux circlejerk here.
I feel like the argument speaks for itself here.
lol really? Gonna switch from windows to Linux because the calculator IN THE START MENU sucks?
Jesus Christ.
Oh no, I switched when I got tired of ads shoved in my face before I've even logged in, long before Windows 11 was being rolled out. For me, the issues were stacking up and I just didn't want to deal with it anymore. I'm not going to detail my issues with Windows here so all I'll say is that I haven't needed to log into Windows unless there's a particular software I need to use (like Elgato or the Kinect Studio, both of which have drivers specific to Windows).
The point is, no one is switching to Linux solely because of the damn calculator in the Start Menu.
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Your reason to not use windows is a web calculator?
They said another reason so that means that it is not their only reason
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It's a start menu, not a calculator.
Oh wait, it's a web search?
It is showing a suggested search on the left AND the calculator with the right operation and result on the right. I'd call it confusing at best, but looks like it's doing what it's supposed to imo
Except it 'recommended' you add a zero and did it for you, changing the equation you asked it to do.
But you see, all you have to do is remove the 0 it added unprompted and you have the right answer it didnt give you.
Microsoft teaching free math skills out here by being terrible at AI.
i like it that KRunner on KDE does that out of the box too, except that it doesn't connect to the internet as a first suggestion, so it's an upgrade :3
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This comes from your search results. I just tried it, and for me it answers what you'd expect. I suspect you use a search system that's either bing, based on bing, or sends queries to bing, and as a result of that it assumed you wanted to search for this specific thing.
Mind you, that makes it no less ridiculous since on the web, Bing can recognize that you put in a math query and answers it without wanting to autocomplete it. It's still bad, just in a slightly more specific way. 😂
I did just try this again on my work laptop and it searched correctly. But the 2nd "search the web" suggestion still added a 0. Maybe I had searched that by accident by hitting enter after typing it (as it still opens Edge/Bing annoyingly).
Disable Bing in the search box on your personal computer. If you're performing searches on your desktop, even if you don't select a web search, it's still being sent to Microsoft and stored.
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Use PowerToys Run instead. The Start menu is dead to me now.
I have it installed already, and I'd switch to using it in a heartbeat if it could replace the Start Menu in a way that didn't break things. I often open the Start Menu purely to show the taskbar over fullscreen games in order to switch to something else. If Run did that (and if binding it to the Windows key didn't break other shortcuts), it would be perfect for me.
Edit: I stand corrected. It appears that Run does sometimes show the taskbar, but it seems inconsistent.
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not sure about windows 11 but in wkndows 10 you can turn it into fully local search menu without any bing crap and web searches with some tweaks
this also makes it open and search without any delay for some reason... Really makes it usable again
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