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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those colors are pretty rough. These look like they should come in an Easter basket.

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[–] yhvr@lemm.ee 37 points 1 year ago (8 children)

USB-C worldwide? That surprises me, I thought it'd just be the EU. I wonder what the catch will be 🤔

[–] krayj@sh.itjust.works 103 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They must have done a cost/benefit analysis and came to the obvious conclusion that having to build multiple variants would be more costly than the profit they'd have earned by continuing to gouge all the non-EU consumers on proprietary cables and junk.

The world owes the EU a debt of gratitude for forcing apple compliance on this one.

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Next step: EU forces RCS compatibility

[–] jennraeross@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Alas, sorting software is much cheaper to implement than differing hardware, so the cost benefit analysis would work out differently in that case I expect…

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (13 children)

I hope not. RCS still has issues. Example, it still requires you to have a phone number. iMessage can be used with an email address.

The Apple insider podcast gents did a nice break down of this a few months ago. iMessage is a lot more than just proprietary RCS.

[–] cousinofjah@twit.social 3 points 1 year ago

I'd be happy with just a functional bridge between iMessage and RCS

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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I two ports would also hurt the accessory market. American phones would likely miss out on a lot of toys.

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[–] kautau@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah they definitely made empty threats until they just succumbed. Their iPads are USB-C, their laptops are packed with USB-C ports. It’s obvious that, as one of the wealthiest companies in the world it’s not a problem to switch their hardware

[–] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 year ago (6 children)

It still supports usb2 data rates, reportedly.

I’m ok with that, but if you have to move lots of data that’s a bummer.

[–] Untitled_Pribor@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You get usb 3 speeds on iPhone 15 pro. Still it’s ridiculous that you don’t get usb 3 on the base model

[–] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would Apple go through the effort to offer you new features if it can just deny standard features to older/cheaper models so you pony up for a new phone?

The most innovative thing Apple is no longer the iPad/iPhone, by a long shot. Maybe their VR set, but it's too early to tell.

[–] lustrum@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Putting usb c, usb3 speeds or 120hz in the phone isn't innovative though. £200 android phones have all of these...

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[–] jonne@infosec.pub 3 points 1 year ago

I don't think too many people use the USB port on their phone for data transfer, other than flashing phones and debugging stuff.

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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (8 children)

It’s cheaper to manufacture one device for the whole world. Moreover, states like California are probably going to also force manufacturers to use USB C. And more than 1 in 10 Americans lives in CA.

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[–] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (8 children)

There were already rumors Apple was going to switch the iPhone as it was the last device with Lightening. The EU mandate is convenient cover for deprecating all those cables and devices people have bought over the years.

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[–] JasSmith@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am incredibly underwhelmed.

[–] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 27 points 1 year ago

iPhone reveal events have become basically:

a) Offering as new what other brands have offered as standard for years.

b) Offering something new that only works if you buy more Apple.

I have an iPhone, and couldn't wait for the iOS 17 release so I installed the beta. Underwhelming is the right word, the event has no right to be named "wonderlust".

[–] mercury@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm really pissed that glass backed phones have become the norm. Seemingly they're more expensive and more breakable! I wish someone would make a metal or plastic backed phone. (Looking at the fairphone...)

[–] LinuxSBC@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Metal doesn't work with wireless charging. Plastic feels cheaper. Still, many companies are making plastic phones, and I'm sure some are making metal ones as well.

[–] sab@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

On the other hand: nothing looks as cheap as a shattered glass back, or having to use a cover because the default surface is too slippery for 1hand use.

[–] webhead@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Does it really matter when you put a case on it anyway? I'd prefer plastic. Glass is stupid and breakable. We shouldn't be trying to put MORE of it on phones.

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[–] Sendbeer@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

They're so fucking slippery too. I can barely use my phone without a case because it tries to slide out of my hand if I attempt to one hand it.

[–] Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fortunately if you need a replacement it's now easier to replace the back as it's not glued on so you could replace it with an aftermarket plastic back.

[–] June@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That’s a big selling point for me on the 15 series. I had the back glass break on my 12 Pro this year and learned after the repair that it’s effectively getting a new phone when it’s ‘repaired’. Took me 2 months to get my eSIM deactivated on the new device for a number of reasons that ultimately ended up being a Verizon issue, but that they blamed on Apple until I got Apple to send me another new device that had the same problem.

The replaceable back glass and USB-C are enough for me to upgrade from my 12 Pro. Now my debate is between the Pro and Pro Max…

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[–] baruchin@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Wouldn’t be an Apple IO change without an overpriced dongle. Some things never change.

[–] Eggyhead@artemis.camp 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would anyone want to buy a USB C to lightning dongle at this point? They can just buy a cheap USB C cable now.

[–] lustrum@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

I kinda see the reason why. What if you have lightning headphones or a lightning flir camera. Cheaper to get a dongle.

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

iPhone 5C revamped for the modern era:

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The main difference being, the iPhone 5c colors were nice.

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[–] sibe@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

If only they would fix their hotspot functionality...

Sold my last iPhone because it kept turning off randomly and it still happens to all my friends who use an iPhone.

[–] LurkNoMore@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

No replaceable battery though?

[–] from_the_black_lagoon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Frosted glass seems so 90s, but replace glass with plastic

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[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

So, Apple just announced a Samsung phone that has existed for years already?

EDIT: Watch out folks, the fanboys have come to wage war.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Did they? I didn't see any bloatware and carrier installed applications announced though? Did they make the new CPU slower or commit to giving updates for fewer years?

[–] mplewis@lemmy.globe.pub 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah, the mythical Samsung phone that still gets six years of manufacturer OS updates

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