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They must have done a cost/benefit analysis and came to the obvious conclusion that having to build multiple variants would be more costly than the profit they'd have earned by continuing to gouge all the non-EU consumers on proprietary cables and junk.
The world owes the EU a debt of gratitude for forcing apple compliance on this one.
Next step: EU forces RCS compatibility
I hope not. RCS still has issues. Example, it still requires you to have a phone number. iMessage can be used with an email address.
The Apple insider podcast gents did a nice break down of this a few months ago. iMessage is a lot more than just proprietary RCS.
I'd be happy with just a functional bridge between iMessage and RCS
It still has issues, but it's much better than SMS, which is currently the only option for messaging between Android and iOS.
Well aside from like all the messaging apps, right?
All the not interconnected apps yes.
Sorry, I meant "the only built-in option for messaging between Android and iOS." A lot of people don't want to install any third-party messaging apps.
I think both things are valid. Apple should adopt RCS, but also that standard should be further pushed to include better features and not just stagnate
I’m willing to bet Apple will adopt RCS as soon as it can be implemented seamlessly.
Never. The epic court case has evidence showing Apple views iMessage as a moat to hold their users hostage.
Doesn’t it require Google servers to work also?
Yes, and people sending messages through Google’s servers have to use Google’s encryption keys.
Let's be honest, who the fuck doesn't have a phone number in 2023? My 9 year old cousin has an iPhone SE.
The point is that iMessage can be used with a computer or tablet that doesn’t have a phone number.
Ah, that I can understand then.
Alas, sorting software is much cheaper to implement than differing hardware, so the cost benefit analysis would work out differently in that case I expect…
One can dream, but recent news is a setback towards this goal: https://bgr.com/tech/eu-ruling-says-apple-doesnt-need-to-add-rcs-support-to-imessage/
Probably because iMessage will be forced to add interoperability using a protocol like Signal, Matrix or XMPP.
Well we're already getting removable batteries which is exciting as fuck. That one will require even more of a major redesign that it will 100% come to the US.
All hail the EU for saving tech.
US people are going to complain about that probay alot for a few years.
I two ports would also hurt the accessory market. American phones would likely miss out on a lot of toys.
Oh, don't worry, Apple will still gate the port and only allow "approved" devices to transfer data.
No. They won’t. The iPad has a USB C port and has for years. They support USB mass storage just fine, as well as video and audio adapters. The files app (which is the same on both iOS and iPadOS) already read USB storage devices using a lightning to USB adapter. And both have supported USB mics over their respective ports.
Looks like there is no MFI bullshit on this. https://www.gsmarena.com/usb_ctoc_cables_for_iphone_15_and_15_plus_handled_no_mfi_usb_20_speeds-news-59649.php
That's good news! But that same report says it's limited to USB 2.0, which seems a bit weird for a 2023 device, but small wins, I guess.
2.0 on the 15, 3.0 on the Pro models.
Stupid imo, but likely fine for the vast, vast majority of use cases.
Many Android phones are USB 2.0 too. Mine does to my annoyance. The fact that transferring files is faster over wifi than cable is wild.
Yeah they definitely made empty threats until they just succumbed. Their iPads are USB-C, their laptops are packed with USB-C ports. It’s obvious that, as one of the wealthiest companies in the world it’s not a problem to switch their hardware