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[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, that's what everyone believes as well. Just with different definitions of "humans"

[–] GigglyBobble@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So what are you hinting at? That by your definition of "human" the message of the comic is wrong and a majority of humans is evil? What do you classify good people then? Angels?

[–] janonymous@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think they meant that often the out-group is defined as non- or sub-human. So technically they believe all humans are trustworthy, kind and peaceful, just not those in the out-group, but they're not really humans anyway.

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that was what I was going for. Obviously, I was also exaggerating for the sake of a joke, just like the original meme - just into a different extreme

[–] GigglyBobble@kbin.social -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think it's a stretch to assume that the average doom-scroller is into nazi ideology - and that's what separating a group as "subhumans" is in fact.

That the world goes to shit and humans are evil is a pretty popular narrative on social media.

[–] Kittenstix@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do companies count as people? Companies do evil things. Do governments count as people? Governments do evil things. Do religions count as people? Religions do evil things.

ALL of these are made up of people yet do overwhelmingly evil things, how do you square those two perceptions?

[–] GigglyBobble@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

The evil comes from the top. The overwhelming workforce, population or believers don't do evil things. Power draws power-hungry people and the ruthless ones have better chances to get to the top.

[–] dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 year ago

For A City on Mars, I read a lot of war theory, and one of the interesting things was how almost everyone stressed immediately that most places and times are peaceful.

[–] Kayel@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does anyone know what numbers / study they're referencing?

[–] johan@feddit.nl 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Can recommend a book by Rutger Bregman called Humankind, which explores this topic and has many references you might he interested in.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humankind:_A_Hopeful_History

[–] waldyrious@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Seconded! This is one of the best books I've read in recent years.

[–] TheYear2525@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I’ll say the same about The Better Angels of Our Nature by Pinker