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Groups of neo-Nazis and white supremacists spread antisemitic, white supremacist and anti-LGBTQ messages outside Disney World and in the nearby Orlando, Florida, area Saturday in the latest examples of rising antisemitism in the U.S., officials said.

About 15 people wearing clothing and bearing flags emblazoned with Nazi insignia demonstrated outside the entrance to the Disney Springs shopping center, said the Orange County Sheriff's Office, which said deputies were dispatched around 10:40 a.m.

According to the Anti-Defamation League, a civil rights organization dedicated to countering extremism, participants carried antisemitic, white supremacist and anti-LGBTQ flags and signs. The group consisted of members of the neo-Nazi groups Order of the Black Sun, Aryan Freedom Network and 14 First, a now disbanded group that has been absorbed into the National Socialist Movement, the largest neo-Nazi group in the U.S., according to the ADL.

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[–] CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Why is the top of his head a different shade than his face?

[–] 0110010001100010@kbin.social 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's where the top of his skull was opened and the brain replaced with a racist bowl of jello.

[–] Kerrigor@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What color jello? It better be blue. We don't abide any green jello around here

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] Jerb322@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Found the big bad wolf....

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[–] numlok@kbin.social 34 points 1 year ago

It's not uncommon for the sack to be a slightly darker shade than the shaft.

[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He wore his new MAGA hat in the shower and seriously misunderstood when he was told afterwards that you should separate your colours from your whites.

Bad laundry joke, I apologise.

Seriously though, his medical situation is 100% none of my business, but it looks a little like contact dermatitis from wearing a hat with materials/detergents that his skin disagrees with. If he weren't the awful type of skinhead, it might not be a problem for any of us.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

That's the best laundry joke I've read all week.

[–] spider@lemmy.nz 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeh these white supremacists do seem to have oddly... Coloured skin. I totally thought the thumbnail was for a new zombie horror film before reading the title.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

it looks like he's wearing some other dudes face as a mask.

Or some other dudes entire skin as a bodysuit.

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[–] Jaarsh119@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (5 children)

No one was arrested? I'm not from the US. Is being an open nazi and rallying for hate speech legal?

[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I believe most States in the US draw the line at "(directly) inciting violence" or "creating a disaster" (eg. shouting "Fire!" In a crowded theatre).

For whatever reasons, shouting "white power" and "Jews will not replace us" while waving swastika flags is not considered "inciting violence" in the US, even though the implications are very clear to everyone. This has allowed Nazis to march in the streets for decades in the US.

[–] rafoix@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

For whatever reasons

The reason is cops and judges agree with those reasons.

Waving nazi flags and using their slogans should be treated as a threat at all times. There is no possible way that anything nazi is not implied violence.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some of those that work forces

Are the same that burn crosses

[–] tider06@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Know your enemy

[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree, but I wanted to stick to the less disputed parts of the answer. I simply can't do justice to the topic of US support for Nazi ideology and its extensive history, even though it is a topic well worth researching. Depressing but important, like many other things in this world.

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[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

To me it always seemed weird how saying "we should eradicate jews by our own hand" or "we should kill this jew" would probably not be okay because of inciting violence, but saying "we should eradicate jews... Through the law/state" instead is perfectly acceptable and not inciting violence.

Is one level of indirection really enough to make it okay? The end result is the same.

This is also why such free speech has problems. If you're the one spewing that shit it's all fine and dandy for you, but if you're the targeted minority what can you do, exactly? Certainly you cannot legally physically defend yourself! You're just destined to have to defend your literal existence with speech, like jeez. It's so lopsided.

[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

It doesn't make sense when you look at it through the lens of "violence is a bad thing", which is what we're generally led to believe it is about. It does make sense when you look at it through the lens of "xenophobia personally benefits/ed me and my other friends currently in power and I would like to keep it that way but I don't want to do the dirty work myself".

Unfortunately most places have a history of the people in power exploiting other groups of people for their benefit, and this is just one way in which it manifests. It feels weird because we know it isn't congruent with what we're taught about how people in a society should behave.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Is being an open nazi and rallying for hate speech legal?

Yes. Ostensibly because of the first amendment, but mostly because cops won't arrest their off-duty coworkers for doing shit they wholeheartedly agree with.

[–] downpunxx@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

yes, it's protected free speech and assembly under the 1st amendment to the constitution.

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[–] Zanothis@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Is being an open nazi and rallying for hate speech legal?

Yes. Any law making that illegal would be unconstitutional. They're assholes, but until they do or say something that is part of commiting a crime they still have a right to free speech.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago
[–] deft@ttrpg.network 24 points 1 year ago

I wonder who is throwing money behind these folk.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They still differentiate between Neo-Nazis and Republicans there?

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 9 points 1 year ago

Neo Nazis are prepared to admit it. That's the difference.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why is it that every time there's ever a new story about white supremacists the photo looks like a bunch of Neanderthals and why is there always someone with insane face tattoos?

There are more attractive chimpanzees, how the hell can they claim to be superior.

They're not even white, they're mostly red.

[–] ChrisLicht@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

A primary vector is prison gangs.

[–] creamed_eels@toast.ooo 18 points 1 year ago

“The extremists dispersed after about two hours, and no one was arrested, because they had to get ready for their shifts at the sheriff's office, the sheriff’s office said.”

[–] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just like Walt would have wanted.

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In many ways, this comment shows just how impotent the social right has become.

It used to be the guy at the top of the company that was a racist POS, and now it's people standing outside the gates lamenting the 'woke' corporation.

That's quite the progress in a century.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

It just goes to show that being racist only really limits your market appeal.

All the woke companies have just realised that everyone's money is as good as anybody else's, but it's better if it's theirs. Been woke is the logical course of action.

[–] flucksy_bango@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm curious about this. I've literally only heard about how Walt Disney was antisemitic from memes and Family Guy. Is there anything I can actually read about it?

[–] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

It's hard to find anything definitive, but everything says he was at least as bad as any rich white man in the 1940s, but Walt was a member of the American Nazi party, and in 1938, a month after Kristallnacht, Disney personally welcomed Nazi director Leni Riefenstahl to his studios.

[–] J12@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who’s funding these guys and why?

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Corporations are funding "conservatism", so corporations are funding fascism... Both foreign and domestic, nationally and globally!

[–] Smacks@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

This happens way more often than people might think. Every time I've visited these idiots are standing just outside the property.

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