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[–] coffeebiscuit@lemmy.world 100 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Auto pilot beta? People are willing to test betas for cars? Are you insane? Insurance is going to have a field day.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What bothers me is, I have to drive on the road with people running some braindead Elon Musk software?

[–] Ocelot@lemmies.world 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Have you seen how humans drive? Its not a very high bar to do better.

[–] coffeebiscuit@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

But betas? Seriously?

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[–] elxeno@lemm.ee 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From what i read, Auto Pilot (AP) is just to keep u on your lane while Full Self Driving (FSD) just switches lanes into oncoming traffic.

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[–] drdabbles@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Even better, several people have died using it or killed someone else. It also has a long history of driving underneath semi truck trailers. Only Europe was smart enough to ban this garbage.

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[–] MrSqueezles@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

The craziest part of the article is just how much effort the author put into collecting data and filing feedback and really really hoping that Tesla could pull the videos (they can), then went on to actively try and succeeded in recreating the problem at high speed next to another car.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not Auto Pilot (AP). There's a difference between FSD and AP. AP will just keep you between the lane lines and pace the car in front of you. It can also change lanes when told to. There's also Enhanced Auto Pilot (EAP). EAP was supposed to bridge the gap between AP and FSD. It would go "on ramp to off ramp". So it could switch lanes as needed and get to exit ramps. FSD is the mode where you shouldn't need to touch it outside of answering the nag (the frequent nag to "apply force to the steering wheel" to tell it you are still alive and paying attention)*.

'* At least I think that's the same for FSD. I'm only on AP with AP1 hardware. Never had an issue that I'd blame on a "bug" or the software doing something "wrong".

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[–] lucidinferno@lemmy.world 85 points 1 year ago (8 children)

“Some of you may die, but it’s a risk I’m willing to take.” - Lord Farquaad and Musk

[–] Blum0108@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago
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[–] Asudox@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

It shouldn't have even been released for normal people to use it in daily life, in real roads full of other cars. This poses a big life risk if you ask me, I hope countries start banning this feature soon otherwise many more other deaths will happen, and Elon somehow will get away with them. What's so hard about driving a real car manually? Did you all become fatass lazy people that don't even have the willpower to drive a car? Ridiculous. ML is experimental and for a machine, it's amazing, but it isn't as good as a human YET, thus causing life threatening accidents. FSD literally is still in beta, and people are driving full speed in roads with this beta software.

[–] dufr@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It can't be used in the EU. It would need to pass a review, Elon have claimed they are close to getting it through but Elon says a lot of things.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 18 points 1 year ago

Self-driving cars are actually only legal in a few countries. And those countries have tests.

It's only the United States that just lets anyone do what everyone earth it is that they want, even if it's insanely dangerous.

Everywhere else any car company that's espousing self-driving tech would actually have to prove that it is safe, and only a few companies have managed to do this and even then the cars are limited to predefined areas where they are sure they're not going to come across difficult situations.

[–] tony@lemmy.hoyle.me.uk 5 points 1 year ago

In its current state it has basically no chance IMO.

If they'd concentrated in making AP/Highway driving smarter first they might have got that through.. there are already rules for that.. but cities? I'd love to see the autonomous car that could drive through London or Manchester.

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[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lol who would trust their life to Elon Musk? 🤣

[–] sdoorex@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago

Well, this article is written by FredTesla who use to mod the TeslaMotors subreddit. Not only did he drink the koolaid, he brewed the damn stuff.

[–] silvercove@lemdro.id 4 points 1 year ago

idiots and losers

[–] sdf05@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is like that show "Upload"; the guy literally gets killed by a car

[–] III@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (8 children)

You should finish watching that first episode before making such bold statements.

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[–] Mockrenocks@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Frankly, it speaks incredibly poorly to the NHTSA that this kind of behavior is allowed. "Beta testing" a machine learning driving assistance feature on active highways at 70+ miles an hour is a recipe for disaster. Calling it Full-Self Driving while also not having guardrails on its behavior is false advertising as well as just plain dangerous.

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