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having a moment here in gnome
to everyone pointing out that this is for touchpads;
a: it's awful on that too
b: note the mouse in the example given
This is an affront to nature
Looking at you Apple who has this option on by default.
This is actually pretty nice for touchpad. It's atrocious for scrollwheel though.
And the magic mouse famously doesn't have a scroll wheel.
I use unnatural for both. It feels like inverted mode for FPS for me. I blame GoldenEye
I hate how Apple unifies the mouse scroll and trackpad scroll interpretation, so I really love this project: https://github.com/ther0n/UnnaturalScrollWheels
IIRC it's default in Windows and GNOME now too. It's a very strange default.
it actually wasn't in this gnome install from last night, i just happened to run across the setting while looking for something else and made the meme. but i do seem to recall having to fix this before in years past.
It's the default for trackpads, which makes sense IMO
iirc windows uses classic direction and doesn’t have an option to change it to “natural”, meaning if you happened to get used to “natural” you have to do some janky registry thing to flip it
We use Apple Computers at work and when I go to someone's computer and realize that "natural scrolling" is on I can't help but judge them internally. Monsters.
I'd rather have an app with unnecessary options that nobody will ever use than one where some UX expert somewhere has decided the exact way I have to interact with the program.
You have been blacklisted from Apple's job board.
There was a point in time where first person video games couldn't make their minds up and so games came with the option to have the y-axis inverted. Moving the mouse up would make the PC look down and vice versa.
It's because of joysticks and typical flight controls. Pushing forward goes down and pulling backwards is "pulling up".
Joysticks rules for a long time before the mouse came out. Home computers came standard with joystick ports.
Keyboard controls followed this convention and when mouse controls came into FPS games this was the first instinct... Moving the mouse "forward" looks down.
I hate when games DON'T have the option. In FPS non-inverted makes more sense, but in 3rd person games if I can't invert the camera if just feels unplayable.
I have to switch the y axis in every 3rd person game now because of super Mario sunshine.
they are GASLIGHTING us into thinking reverse way is NORMAL!
i only use that for touchpad
Yes, that would make sense, but why does the UI show a mouse with a scroll wheel then.
Stop trying to make all PCs phones, its not going to happen. STOP.
My phone is a PC...
But is your PC a phone?
I preferred the term "Australian scrolling"
It's supposed to mimic how you scroll on your phone. Fine for TouchPads (depending on when you learned to use it(i.e., if you learned to use a touch pad after learning to use a smart phone then it would make, slightly, more sense)), abhorrent for mice.
if you look at the image it clearly shows a mouse moving content.
You only use that on a touchpad
I love the natural direction for my track pad and phone, but I'll die before I use it on my mouse. I have to use a 3rd party app to make my mouse behave the way I want and still use a track pad
Most of the time, the linux memes community sparks better debates and discussion than the linux one, where everything is circlejerk and "windows bad"
the linuxgaming communities are also generally p decent
I have natural scrolling on for both mouse and touchpad, I like it much better. It's a pain in Windows though, have to edit register to change wheel direction.
i dont get it. what's "natural scrolling"?
"Natural scrolling" just reverses the scroll direction. Pushing the mouse wheel up will scroll the content down. It's called "natural" because it's similar to the way you drag content around on touch screens.
What am I missing? What else would the mouse wheel do?
it's mostly for touchpads, I find it better as it mimics the behaviour on phones touchscreen but sometimes I disable it
I hope nobody uses it on a mouse
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