Just a little at a time. Most sites let you change your email. As you get a message from a site move it to your other email.
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I just forwarded my outlook and gmail to my proton. Changed the account I use most and then when an account emails and it gets forwarded it reminds me to then change it.
Also then filters out the 100s of older accounts that can probably die with my old email
You're using a password manager right? Just iterate through the entries in your password manager updating.
Can vouch for this method, I did something similar and just updated my email on services in order of my entries in password manager.
The email I use for random website sign-up’s is an ancient hotmail account that I only check when I’m expecting a specific email. It’s like thousands of spam messages.
The more important things using my actual email are comparatively small.
Look into the temp mail browser add-on.
Yes I do. Although many sites simply wont let you change it. I will still have to try and change as many as I can
Could you give me an example of a mainstream website that doesn't let you update your email?
I think it might be difficult if you used oauth to create the account. In most cases your account will just continue to be tied to that oauth provider.
Sites that allow signup with oaurh almost always have an option to change to traditional login with username/password
It's been years since I used stubhub but that is one site that didn't allow me to change it out. I lost access to that email but it's irrelevant now anyways since I charged back them on their COVID shenanigans, I'm sure that account is blocked now.
Ryanair and wizzair websites won't let you change email
Start by changing your most important services to your new email, and set your gmail to forward everything to your new email. From then, sign up to new sites with your new email and change emails of old accounts if you have time, it's not a huge rush.
As long as you set up the email forwarding, you've done most of the important work right there.
I transitioned e-mail address twice. What has worked for me is doing it slowly. Keep the old address around: from time to time you'll get emails from services you did not even remember being subscribed to. Also, if you don't use a password manager, now it's the perfect time to start. I suggest Bitwaden
Thanks. I do use bitwarden as well I selfhost a bunch of stuff like nextcloud. I'm actually weirded out on myself that I'm still depending from google
Less of a leap and more of a careful crawl. Use nee email for new services, and deactivate old accounts if possible. I have yet to selfhost email, but for hosted options proton and tutanota are better than gmail for easily. The issue with selfhosting email is that it is easy to get blacklisted iirc.
I'm thinking about this every once in a while. What about using a custom domain and a relay service like FireFox Relay or Addy.io? That would give you the option to move your actual email around easily, even after you lose access to it.
I found this easier than expected. I was already in the habit of not using my main personal account for online signups etc - just for friends and family. So i setup forwarding for the important contacts first. If I get a fwded mail i make sure I respond from the new one so they have it . There were still some services using gmail - utility companies etc. I switched each of those to other addresses using a redirector - at first simplelogin , now hide my email (but probably going to switch again). I left the gmail live for now. Downloaded everything using GoogleTakeaway. I havent yet closed it down so not sure what that involves yet, but Im not dependent on it now.
It might seem daunting at first, but get started and gradually move stuff to your new address. It does sound like you live in a place where this might be easier said than done saying that. Maybe the gmail address stays live only with a few final gov services (dont forget to filter and fwd them).
Doesn't take nearly as long as you'd think if you start to slowly transition stuff to the new address.
I'm still transitioning to gmail from my hotmail accounts....
So first off, not sure if you're in a different country or something, but I live in the US, and basically every website, Government or not, has a way to easily change your email address.
I've run into one or two that I had to call to confirm, but still, it was pretty painless.
Second, gmail allows you to automatically forward your emails to a different email address. While you're going through the process of changing your primary email on different websites, set up a universal forwarding rule on gmail to send all emails to your new address.
Third, for actually transitioning your emails, sit down and write a list out of all your services that are tied to your email starting with most critical first. This would be banking, auto bill payments for utilities, car payments, credit cards, phone/internet payments, investment logins, etc.
Basically, the sites that if you lost access to or couldn't auto pay with, you would be screwed or at risk of late payments.
Getting all of those down should be pretty quick because there shouldn't be that many unless you have a ton of different loans, banks, and investment portfollios.
Getting those taken care of will take your stress down significantly. Then move on to important, but not critical, this could be your streaming services, other subscriptions like news sites or newsletters, important apps or services you pay for.
Then tier three is everything else. Stuff that doesn't really matter that much.
This is what I did and now I'm completely off Gmail/Outlook and onto Protonmail and love it.
Last thing to remember is to download anything in your email that might be important. Just force the rule to run through your whole inbox and it will forward all your old emails to your new address. This will likely take many hours to fully sync, but eventually all email records will be moved over to your new email address.
I just finished this as well with Proton and SimpleLogin. Tier 1 get my actual Proton address. Tier 2 gets an alias address. Tier 3 gets closed as needed or an alias address.
Consider getting your own domain. That way you own your own name, but you can swap email providers behind the scenes
You have to accept that privacy costs money because your data isn't being sold. For $5+ a month you can use proton Mail or tutanota. For ~$2 a month you can use Zoho mail or Titan mail.
Whatever you choose, it will be worth it.
If you set up a domain with Protonmail, you can have unlimited email addresses for that domain, although they all go to the same inbox that way. I like to use a website's name as the user when I sign up with a website, so it's like officedepot@mydomain.com. If I start getting emails to that address from somebody other than Office Depot, I know those rat-bastards sold me out.
With Proton Pass it will even generate those fake emails for you. No need to tweak any settings. And the best part is that you're not forced to use the password manager that goes with it.
Speaking from experience, I'd recommend not choosing protonmail because it is very difficult to cleanly stop paying and leave - forwarding mail to another address is a paid feature. It's also not very standards compliant (no IMAP/SMTP support without running a buggy bridge). Their security features are mostly useless and better security can be achieved on standards-compliant services if you try.
Buying one or more domains and using those with protonmail gives you 100% portability. Just redirect your domains to a different mail server if you decide to make a switch.
I switched to Fastmail a few months ago and love it.
My tip is: Start simple.
- If you have any other Domains forwarded to Gmail forward them to Fastmail instead.
- Forward Gmail to Fastmail (i.e. add as an account including importing old mails). This won't get you off Google yet, but at least a backup and you can practically stop using Gmail.
- For any new registration, use Fastmail (or any of its random emails etc.)
- Slowly transition your old accounts.
Before you change your accounts over to your new email, use email aliases like anonaddy or simplelogin for your online accounts.
This is what I've done. I've literally just moved to Proton from Gmail. I created aliases for all my sites. The only site that knows about my Proton email address is SimpleLogin.
The only emails in Gmail now are from Google services tied to that Gmail account.
Most websites don't let you change the email? Just create a new account then.
You have to make some sacrifices to get away from having your entire identity online tied to Google. Be willing to have some downsides to get upsides.
Just change the email address for all your accounts where it's possible to change it. In your GMail settings forward all incoming emails to your new email adress.
Start with one site at a time, and if a site/service doesn’t allow you to change your email without contacting them, make a note of it, and don’t worry about it for now. To begin with, focus on the sites that you can change yourself. This will give you a sense of making progress, perhaps faster than you might think.
I started switching off of gmail about 4 years ago and I’m still checking it periodically. Most of the messages I get to my gmail account these days are spam or mistaken emails due to people signing up for services and thinking that my email address is theirs (I have an early “first initial/last name” gmail address that I got in 2005). But every once in a while something legit will pop up and I make it a point to change the address.
I don’t know if I’ll ever actually close my gmail account or stop checking it, but at this point I’ve got 99%+ of the services I care about switched over to my new address, so if Google boots me, I won’t care.
Some e-mail providers (like Proton for example) allow you to import your e-mails and contacts from gmail - that's a start. You probably have all your passwords saved in browser/manager so you will know where to go to update them - unfortunately I don't think there's an automated way to do it, but it probably seems like more hassle than it actually is. I'd also search your mailbox for keywords like "welcome" or "account" to see if there are any other services you forgot you signed up for and haven't saved the password in browser/manager.
After all is migrated and updated, you would probably want to delete your google account but I wouldn't do that right away, just to give yourself some extra time in case you forgot about something. Log out of all google services and stop using them. Set a reminder for 1 year from now to delete the account.
Currently in transition. I have about 300ish accounts to change the email handles but i set myself a goal of at least 10 a day, more if I feel like it. Its a journey not a race take your time. In the mean time though you should be backing up anything important off of your account if you havent already like contacts, photos files and messages. That should help with your nerves, at least it did with me.
I have my Gmail since beta invites so over 20 years. I'm dying with that account it's basically my Internet SSN at this point. It's also my real name so it's professional n shit. The idea of moving it would be a disaster.
This is a fight you need to have. I know is an inconvenience but small steps like buy a domain and start using with new services or people is a way to start
I have this idea to buy a .su domain and host my own email addy. I'm sure all the tools to do so exist on Linux but I haven't taken the time to really research it yet.
I'm been in this process for the last two months (because there are so many sites to change my e-mail address). I went with Gmail originally so I did not have to change my address everytime I changed ISPs.
So my first step was to use my own domain name so that as long as i keep renewing that annually (it's a small cost) then I keep my e-mail address (even if I change actual e-mail providers).
Next was to find an e-mail service I could point my domain to. I also needed one where I could download my e-mail to my desktop computer for archiving and reference, eg. I'm using BetterBird, but ThunderBird is another option.
So finding a mail provider is interesting as most that let you use your own domain name (custom domain name) are not free. One option was paying a small fee to by actual domain provider and use their service. I went though for ProtonMail in the end as I was already paying for their VPN service, so the difference to upgrade to the "everything" account was not that much more and scored me 500GB of online storage too (I pay separately for Bitwarden password management, otherwise that would be another plus). This allowed me to use my custom domain name (unlimited addresses), download mail through their bridge, etc.
So the real challenge really was finding a suitable mail service. I can switch easily in the future as I just point my domain name to the new mail provider, and never have to update my mail address at any sites again, and all mail is always available on my desktop computer.
Use your own domain for the migration. That means if you ever move again you won't have to do this again. You can just point the domain at a new email service.
I do this. I'm slowly transitioning from Gmail to my own domain. I use tutanota for my email host, which was relatively easy to setup and is not prohibitively expensive.
I frequently encounter people asking about moving from Gmail but I never understand, please help me understand if I'm wrong. Doesn't Gmail still let you forward emails to a 3rd party address? In which case just sign up for another email service and you're done. Email is a standard, not a service. I've changed email addresses probably about as many times as years I've been alive, it's probably the least likely service I could think of that you could be tied in to. Am I missing something huge here?
Multiple concerns: it will only forward emails as long as the acvount is alive. Google recently annoinced it will close accounts that are inactive for certain time so if you stop using it and just use it for forwarding you are risking to lose the mail. As well there is the privacy concern that google reads every email of yours and by forwarding you are not really solving that concern
Yes; this.
I personally went with Proton Mail which even has an easy way to import your existing Gmail emails into your new Proton Mail account so they're still all in one place.
what email client do you use? I bought a domain with the exact same goal in mind, but I'm kinda new to self hosting / homelabs stuff and everywhere I look makes self hosting email seem extremely complicated
Self hosting an email server paints a giant target on your back for hackers. It's a huge pain in the ass to keep it secure.
I use my own domain email but then I use POP3 into Gmail so I can use their interface. I haven't found an interface or software I like more yet.