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The potential for exploitation is too high, absolutely not

Oh HA I didn't read properly and you answered the question already. Agreed!

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Hell no. Allowing that is just supporting the ass-backwards notion that intellectually disabled people are less deserved of rights-- rights that are inalienable.

I can't help but feel that the Nazis asked a similar question, only they were deciding whether they should go to a death camp.

If you find yourself discussing something similar to what the Nazis discussed, maybe take a step back and reconsider your worldview.

Minimum should be the absolute minimum, going lower defeats the purpose of having a minimum in the first place

Abolish capitalism.

no, but it's difficult for them to access high wage jobs so...

I completely agree that they should be paid equally.

I also have to say that when my sister was working for goodwill industries she was the happiest and most well adjusted that she ever was while living at home.

Goodwill was definitely underpaying her since they're famous for it. But at the same time they were providing the optimal working environment that she needed. The supervisors were all trained to mediate all of the myriad behavioral and social difficulties that came with her intellectual disability, including when she straight up started cussing out her coworkers on several occasions.

The cussing out her coworkers by the way, meant she was doing pretty damn good. I usually didn't get that much warning as a kid. She used to just start hitting and throwing things in our house. I spent my childhood getting glass thrown at me by her. She gave me a permanent back injury as a child.

And they employed her successfully for years. She liked going there. She had friends there. She would talk about what they had her do that day and the skills she used and how she had to think to get those tasks done. Then with the (admittedly miniscule) money she made she was able to pay for a care aid to come and take her to the movies every Friday instead of. Y'know. HITTING US AND THROWING THINGS AT US. And when she was at home she was much calmer and more self-confident in a way that didn't involve hitting people.

So something about the current system certainly needs to change significantly. It's 100% not right and I hate thinking about the fact that they literally devalue human beings.

And a company that does all that gave me a sister that didn't beat me twice a month for about two years.

I have some very confusing feelings about that.

There needs to be some kind of public service that provides that for people like my sister. I will fully admit that capitalism is not doing it in a humane way.

My view in the current state of the world is that you should get your salary from your maximum performance (healthy one).

Imagine that it takes 4 hours to you to draw an illustration in each journey, in the sense you can draw 2 each day as maximum.

Other person, meanwhile, can only make 1 in the whole journey as maximum because they are slower.

In conclusion, both you and them would get the same salary as you are both working at your maximum performance.

People who are not able to work, should be maintained directly by the state as result of contributions from people working.

I once worked for a guy with Downs syndrome, who also had a part-time job. He came from a working-class family, and clearly felt proud of the fact that he worked.

I don't know if he received minimum wage, but if it's not worth a company's time to pay the standard rate, then one way to make up the difference is government subsidisation.

On the other hand, you're subtracting a job which someone else might need, and they (unlike someone with a disability that gives fully-paid benefits) are expected to work. So while a country has a system which requires some people to work to live, this causes problems.

I don't think many countries have the kind of sensible laws and procedure to do this safely, but ideally, people who have the ability to contribute should get some avenue, and they should get paid whatever the job is worth to them.