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Sorry for the headline. I don't know why they don't just say it's Vivek Ramaswamy.

To that end, I will accept Russian control of the occupied territories and pledge to block Ukraine’s candidacy for NATO in exchange for Russia exiting its military alliance with China. I will end sanctions and bring Russia back into the world market. In this way, I will elevate Russia as a strategic check on China’s designs in East Asia.

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[–] shectabeni@sh.itjust.works 71 points 1 year ago

At least they don't even try to hide how much they are in bed with Russia anymore.

[–] PatFussy@lemm.ee 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dont give this stupid ass a platform. Just dont talk about him. All the negative press is what gave credence to Trump by the anti crowd.

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[–] TwoGems@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

Of course, because Republicans get money from Russia to betray their country. What's sad is that it doesn't take much.

[–] donut4ever@lemm.ee 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Republicans at this point are just fighting over who will be the worst and most fucked up and evil mother fucker. They are basically debating over who is going to fuck their people (and the rest of the world in this instance) harder. I can never understand why anyone would vote for these goons.

[–] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

You know whats the funny thing here?

Republicans at this point are just fighting over who will be the worst and most fucked up and evil mother fucker?

Thats what attracts the republican voters.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

US politicians are surprisingly easily bought by foreign adversaries

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The worst thing about American political corruption is exactly how cheap these whores are.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
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[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How the actual fuck are the Republicans not getting hammered in the polls?

Americans have been brainwashed for decades with 'communism bad' propaganda, so it seems mind-boggling that Republicans are so willing to give the former Soviet Union any control over Ukrainian soil. Part of the reason we've been fighting back against Russia's invasion with sanctions and equipment donations has been because they've been NATO's ideological enemy for decades.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I've actually seen a shirt that says "I'd rather be Russian than Democrat."

[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So have I.

I'm not even from the same continent and it hurts my head to think of how a party whose supporters are synonymous with highly patriotic rednecks are willing to continue supporting their team after they've shown a categorical willingness to sell out to the enemy.

Like... I truly think some big corporation has put something in our food or drink that is making us terminally stupid.

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[–] gammasfor@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At this point being a Republican should be considered synonymous to being part of a conspiracy to commit treason and be treated as such.

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[–] Four_lights77@lemm.ee 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

These debates seem more and more like massive focus groups. They get the non-contenders to say preposterous things with two goals: see what sticks and propagate lies.

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[–] FarceMultiplier@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who the fuck does he think is. The US has zero rights to do anything like this.

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[–] brave_lemmywinks@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm not into US politics other than the basics, but let me tell every American that the consequences of something like this happening will be catastrophic, and then you'll "fight" China alone, if not with more opponents.

Trump was already a huge liability to European foreign policy, if it happens again, the EU will dissociate from the US, weaponize and go nuclear. The eastern countries will enter direct conflict with Russia eventually (sooner than later), and the whole continent will get dragged into the war. At the end who ever is left will not support the US, actively be against it, and have nuclear weapons.

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[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

sounds like a russian asset

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[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Russia can't even control it's own military with success, how the fuck are they gonna challenge China and put them on check. Lol this fuckin puppet has the whole arm in him.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 year ago

Never vote Conservative/Republican/Tory or whatever name these RW crazies choose.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

We're not seeing this motherfuckers tax returns.

[–] nehal3m@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago

Luckily it’s not his to give.

[–] nostradiel@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

If he thinks that Russia will break their military cooperation with China, he is even more stupider that Trump and Biden combined..

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

How fucking retarded is this guy?

Russia would make all the promises in the world until the US pulls all its support and resources from Ukraine. Once Ukraine falls, Russia would just tell the US to go fuck themselves and ally with China anyway.

Not that this whack job has a chance of becoming President and actually trying this shit, there's a less than 0% chance of it actually working.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Vivek Ramaswamy is one of the more unappealing politicians I’ve seen in quite some time… which means that he will likely rocket up the GOP polls

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[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 17 points 1 year ago

“ in exchange for Russia exiting its military alliance with China”

OMG, so funny. That is even more unlikely than this tool becoming POTUS and I am not sure that would happen even if the rest of them were tragically killed.

[–] erranto@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

You can't give away what you can't control

[–] odium@programming.dev 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

EU sanctioning the fuck out of the US in 3, 2, 1...

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I'd rather kick America out of it's own NATO before blocking Ukraine, jesus crust.

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This idiot watched Trump sucking off the Russians and thought that was why he was popular, so he's gonna go ahead and double down.

How the Republicans of all people have managed to turn into the PRO RUSSIA party I can hardly fathom. For all their rampant flag waving and mindlessly spouted "Support our troops" drivel, they'd have been the last ones to kowtow to Moscow. In the end of course, I Do understand. It's their fanatical worship of Trump, the idea that anyone who doesn't adore Inmate Number P01135809 is just a traitor, and He of course was willing to give the Russians anything and everything they wanted to keep that kompromat from being released. So, Republicans have just internalized the idea that Russians Good, just because Inmate P01135809 said so.

And of course because Democrats have been supporting anti-Russian policies. Republicans would rather be traitors than collaborate with the Democrats.

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[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I see Vivek Ramaswamy is gunning to be the Neville Chamberlain of the 21st century. Giving Putin what he wants is like trying to appease Hitler. Putin's expressed ideology is for Russia to conquerer Europe. He is not going to stop with the Donbas region or Ukraine. The best thing for everyone, including the Russian people, is for Russia as we know it to collapse into smaller countries.

This video by Kraut does a good job explaining Putin's ideology.

Not to mention by supporting Ukraine, the US is sending a clear message to China that they will be met with force if they try invade Taiwan. It doesn't benefit anyone other than Russia and China to work with them and give them what they want. Dictatorships are always going to be incentivized to backstab democracies. Democracies are going to champion human rights, where as other dictatorships will look the other way. So no matter how hard you try to separate Russia and China they are always going to be incentivized to work with each other.

And the little cooperation between China and Russia is not worth backstabbing Ukraine over.

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[–] finickydesert@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

Why is he backing a losing side?

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago

Hahahaha, he'll get Russia to sever military alliances with China eh? I'm sure they'll kindly pack up their things and leave Ukraine alone, just like they did in 1991. Putin has showed his hand. He's not to be trusted with any diplomatic issue. He will not abide by American rhetoric. Negotiating terms where Ukraine is blocked from joining NATO simply signals to the West's enemies that if you're able to make inroads, we'll make concessions. It's ultimately as weak piss of a foreign policy as it gets.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 11 points 1 year ago

I'm so glad he feels confident enough to do such a thing.

You would have thought that not been Ukrainian would make him think he has no right to make that decision, fortunately not.

[–] Sused@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 year ago

Paid by russia

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

how many Russian agents they got in that party now

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[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

He is the ultimate grifter...I wonder what kind of donation that got from the NRA.

[–] KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

You’ve got to be fucking kidding me.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Given how many jokes I've made about Trump ordering Ukraine to "just surrender" in a second term, I'm not mad, I'm just sad that my low opinion of the world is justified and accurate.

[–] Pretzilla@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He can't realistically win potus, so he's only running to angle for Sec of State position in the next GQP admin

It will never not blow my mind that people alive during the cold War and all that drama are like yeah... liberal Americans are the enemy! We have more on common with Russia so we feel comfortable backing them in anything.

[–] drdiddlybadger@pawb.social 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't get why he thinks Russia would end a military alliance after being given everything they want without having to end that alliance. And what makes him think other nations won't still back Ukraine? We would just be putting ourselves on the wrong side of history and on the wrong side of the war.

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[–] finkrat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Fuck you Vivek, you fawning douchebag

Is there no remotely sane candidate in the Republican party? It's not even a matter of supporting bad policies anymore, they have literally lost their minds and betray the very values this country is supposed to stand for

[–] bookmeat@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This guy has no idea what geopolitics is and how the East is playing it.

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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

"in exchange for Russia exiting its military alliance with China."

"...You're questioning if is Russia is good on its commitments? Who had every heard of Russia not following through with its promises? What? Budapest memo-what?" -Ramaswamy probably

[–] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 6 points 1 year ago

I guess fuck Ukraine's right to self-determination?

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