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Hello everyone,

We unfortunately have to close the !lemmyshitpost community for the time being. We have been fighting the CSAM (Child Sexual Assault Material) posts all day but there is nothing we can do because they will just post from another instance since we changed our registration policy.

We keep working on a solution, we have a few things in the works but that won't help us now.

Thank you for your understanding and apologies to our users, moderators and admins of other instances who had to deal with this.

Edit: @Striker@lemmy.world the moderator of the affected community made a post apologizing for what happened. But this could not be stopped even with 10 moderators. And if it wasn't his community it would have been another one. And it is clear this could happen on any instance.

But we will not give up. We are lucky to have a very dedicated team and we can hopefully make an announcement about what's next very soon.

Edit 2: removed that bit about the moderator tools. That came out a bit harsher than how we meant it. It's been a long day and having to deal with this kind of stuff got some of us a bit salty to say the least. Remember we also had to deal with people posting scat not too long ago so this isn't the first time we felt helpless. Anyway, I hope we can announce something more positive soon.

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[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I am wondering what kind of moderation tools would be needed.
On the top of my head, I'd say a trust-level system would be great, both for instances and users. New instances and users start out on a low trust level. Posts and commemts federated by them could be set to require approval or get deranked compared to other posts and comments. In time the trust-level increases and the content is shown as usual. If an incident occurs and content is getting reported, the trust level decreases again and eventually will have to be approved first again.

You can couple that with a reporting-trust-level. If a report is legitimate, future report will hold more weight, while illegitimate reports will make future reports hold less.

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[–] chraqs@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

That is awful.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All I can is that I'm sorry this is happening to you guys. Are there specific ways others can help?

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[–] KrisND@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Sincerely appreciate your work to better this instance and the fediverse in it's entirely.

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)
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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

The only word I can think of is "disgusting", and that is far from strong enough.

[–] Rawdogg@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

What kind of lowlife piece of shit do you need to be to post some shit like that? Some people will stoop to the most depraved levels just to fuck with strangers, it's horrifying

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 year ago

Thank you for your work.

That also means that they could post to other communities, so I guess moderators need to be vigilant

[–] ZestycloseReception8@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

isn't this what 8cjan is for? Seriously what the fuck is wrong with people who think that CSAM is appropriate shit post material. The Internet really is a fucked up place. is there a way to setup something to automatically remove inappropriate posts similar to YouTube's system of automatically removing inappropriate contents?

[–] HelloHotel@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Its an attavk on the fediverse

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[–] TheMadnessKing@lemdro.id 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do think if the platform needs to grow more, we need more full time devs working on it and building it up to par. Good time to start funding campaign for Lemmy

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[–] figaro@lemdro.id 14 points 1 year ago

Lemmy devs NEED to get mod tools out asap. Approved posts only, whitelisting users for communities, etc.

[–] 58008@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Lads, as a casual Lemmy user, just how much danger am I in of having my mind permanently incinerated by seeing images of children being sexually tortured? I've been using the net since the mid-90s and I have never seen a single piece of CSAM in that time, and I now realise that I've been insanely lucky in that regard. My mind is already host to all manner of unspeakable internet shit (looking at you, cartels), but I don't think I could endure seeing anything like the stuff those evil fucking degenerate nihilist cunts have on their hard drives. I would want to commit murder.

So, stay the hell off Lemmy or... ?

[–] 2d@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you’re just browsing the front page/hot you should be fine, nothing awful will make it there

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[–] BitOneZero@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

CSAM (Child Sexual Assault Material) posts

The federal governments of several nations should be in pursuit of this, and IP addresses and specific time logs shared.

[–] alokir@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Countries that aren't federations will also take this seriously.

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[–] quitenormal@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I had no idea that this was going on. I expect that, like me, most people are horrified.

[–] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Relevant: Excellent congressional legal memo explaining the current US law on CSAM (as of 2022) Link

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[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

is there a list somewhere including detailed descriptions of the tools needed?

My field is QA but i'm a reasonably competent in a few scripting languages (mainly JS, but can also code in python and C#)

they would probably not be browser embedded, at least not at first, but i can dedicate a couple evenings a week to writing tools so long as there is a specification

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[–] dandroid@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are they only posting to this one community? If so, why? Would closing this community not just make them post on a different one?

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[–] root@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Thank you so much for the transparency and for all your (and the teams) work to keep things running for us <3

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