cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/5636484
Give him his due, he managed to convince one single country that the colour of a text message matters π
this post was submitted on 28 Aug 2023
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Obligatory fuck iMessage lock-in.
Heβs the guy that *inventedβ rounded corners
Did it to themselves
As a mobile app developer, I lost count of how many times Android would implement something New And Shiny, and then Apple would come along, sometimes years later, implement that same thing for iOS and declare and market it as Magical and Revolutionary. Usually the iOS one would be a better one, because they'd let Android work most of the bugs out, but I don't recall too many things that Apple did that had never been seen before.
Not to mention in the early years, all of the login you'd see from iPhone enthusiasts who would convince themselves that they didn't need X or Y feature from Android and in fact iOS is better without it anyways because it just works, only for Apple to turn around and implement it a couple months or years later anyways.
Basic features like the notification shade, quick actions, home screen widgets, etc. I saw a lot of people happily claim they were better off without these things.
Oh shit they have widgets now? Still no app drawer though I bet.
App drawer is there, too
Ayy they caught up. Do the icons still forcibly tile to home?
Yes we have an app drawer now lol (I use an iPhone as my secondary phone).
Yes. I remember being argued down that "we don't need copy and paste! That's not an important feature!". Smh
This is so true.
For 10 years (2011 to 2021) I carried both an Android phone (personal) and an iPhone (work provided). Both phones were updated about every 2 years.
Over those years I've watched IOS get closer and closer to Android. The funny thing is Android has also been creeping towards IOS in some areas, though that is to a lesser extent than the other way around.
In recent years they've gotten pretty close to each other in basic functionality.
I still prefer Android, but IOS is much less annoying to use than it was a decade ago.
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Steve Jobs was full of shit and killed himself with his own over confidence.
If he'd made it to Covid times, he would have died from Covid after injecting bleach and horse dewormer failed to alleviate the illness.
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And in the end the lying salesman died because of snakeoil therapy. I wish more stories had such a happy ending.
He had the rare treatable pancreatic cancer, and he didn't treat it because he didn't believe in modern medicine.
Goes to show how stupid supposedly smart people are.
Steve jobs and Elon musk are basically the same character.
Say what you will about Jobs, I don't think he wanted to genocide anyone.
As a PocketPC (WinMo) user before the iPhone even existed, I take offense to the claim.
They pioneered capacitive touchscreen for ease of use, but I had ditched dumb phones years before iPhone.
Note XDA refers to the old Windows Mobile XDA phone and then became an Android community. I was there for that transition and none of us were very impressed with the iPhone, but understood that it would be something for the tech illiterate would eat up.
Not just Windows Mobile, but Blackberry OS, Palm OS, Symbian, not to mention the madlads hacking Linux onto feature phones (which eventually gave us PostMarketOS). iOS was actually very underwhelming when it came out, was(is) explicitly function over form and basically had(has) "it looks pretty and feels sleek" as its only selling points. Didn't even have third party apps whereas most of its contemporaries had them for ages by then.
Rich coming from a person who implied Apple innovated, when all they really did was be the first ones to assemble a consumer product out of already invented tech.
What did Android steal from Apple? Headphone jacks?
No idea, iPhone fanatics act like smartphones and apps didn't exist before the iPhone... I mean maybe the idea of central app store that forbids installation of applications from other sources?
I mean maybe the idea of central app store that forbids installation of applications from other sources?
You mean like a Linux repository that existed before Apple "invented" the concept and renamed it an app store?
Didn't we all end up just stealing a lot of todays shit from Xerox PARC anyway?
Fuck the slide to unlock discussion, let's talk about representing hierarchies of files in a file system as folders in a graphical environment and why the thing that shows our position on a screen is a slanted arrow.
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Apparently the whole concept of a touchscreen only device, including the UI, according to Apple at the time.
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I thought I was in "!android" not "!IHateApple".
Whatever you think of Steve Jobs, Android is better off for having competition
Literally true
Great artists steal.. and can get away with it. If you can't get away with it, your not a great artist.
He forgot to finish the sentence.
In the end Samsung would owe Apple around $500 million in US courts and Apple lost (a value I'm not even going to sit here and add up) in international courts.
The whole US snafu was largely seen around the world as American protectionism. As for Apple and Google, Apple saw their case wasn't as slam dunk internationally and decided to settle with Google in 2014.
Really though, once Steve Jobs died, the momentum for litigation dropped precipitously. Only Jobs was willing to go thermonuclear.
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I was kind of hoping that these kinds of posts would stay at reddit where they belong.
Awesome, with low post counts and users on Lemmy, and an upvote system that mimics Reddits - your shit out of luck with whatever agenda for keeping lemmy "small" or however you pictured it in your mind.
The upvotes have spoken and the community wants to see this type of information.
We can discuss in the feedback thread since I feel this is getting close to breaking Rule 6.
I don't think this post needs mod action, you are all grown-ups (or should at least, act like grown-ups here), but I would still like to encourage less low effort posts in the future.
Is it low effort though? There's an entire generation that wasn't around for the introduction of the iPhone and may have no idea this quote even existed.
Android currently has an image problem with this generation. To say the two are not related and chalking it up to "low effort" is, in itself, low effort.
This isn't even a Steve Jobs quote, it's a Picasso quote.
I'd say posting a screenshot of a quote and a title is pretty low effort. Write a sentence or two of your own thoughts in the text box when you submit something, it's not that hard.
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Yeah Steve, you really showed us Windows and Android users. Fuckin' nerd.
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