Context: https://literature.cafe/post/987996
You can look into Cloudflare's CSAM setting, but I'm not exactly sure what it does.
I don't understand how a web host is legally responsible for what their users post as long as there's active moderation removing it in a timely manner.
You are correct, there is safe harbor provisions on the matter. There is a legal responsibility to report and store the content securely when it is reported as an admin.
It’s like it’s not enough that you deal with all the technical shit, updating to new versions, checking shit out from GitHub, running builds, paying for the goddamn thing, then you are also responsible for babysitting content? Fuck that. Unless you have a good group of mods/admins it is really difficult to do.
keep in mind that this does not apply to every country in the world.
I would love to have the EFF chime in, but there are some protections for you as a host under the Online Copyright Infringement Liability Limitation Act (OCILLA) - or safe harbor provision in the USA.
As to how that has been tested legally on federated content, I don't know. Perhaps another elder of the internet can tell me how Usenet servers handle it.
You are right, there is safe harbor protections here. It's a legal mess that must be navigated carefully. We will see how things progress.
While correct, you still may end up having to deal with the law about it. The whole "you can't beat the ride" thing. Could be a ton of hassle and legal fees.
What are you implying here? That @gabe should never have bothered with running a server? What about the server you are connected to right now? Should they shut down because of what may travel across it?
No.
They're protected under the same rules as somebody running a WiFi hotspot at a coffee shop. As long as they are doing everything within reason to be a good steward of their local network (which is what Gabe is doing) then they are protected.
Doesn't seem like he was implying anything. Just stating the fact that part of the burden of citizenship is sometimes having to interact with law enforcement, maybe even go to trial, even if you've done nothing wrong.
This is the reason that vlemmy.net shutdown.
Why are people like this
Here I thought I could create a server and then use that as a instance only to hold my profile where I could then use that to interact across the fediverse
You can absolutely do that, just make the profile registration private
Yeah I have wanted that from day one. I want it to work like mail my identity on my domain that I can bring anywhere, store my comments, posts, subscriptions and that's it, maybe direct messages or explicitly saved posts. Not every damn post that I read / subscribe.
I don't know what's going on and I'm afraid of clicking the link...
It's an admin post talking about why some images are broken
Can I ask what the acronym means?
I'm too paranoid to do an internet search to figure it out, but I have a hunch.
I didn't know either but I took one for the team. Child Sexual Abuse Material.
Damn. I guessed it was something like that.
That's so disgusting, some fuckers are sick.
Thanks for replying!
When did the term change from CP to CSAM? Seems like everyone changed overnight.
Iirc the reason it changed was because it's a more accurate description of what the material contains, and because actual pornography is supposed to be consentual by nature, even when it's depicting an imitation of a non-consensual act. However, kids are incapable of consenting. Saying that videos of them is porn feels too much like it puts it on the same level as adult porn, when they're not at all the same. If someone released a video of someone being raped I think most people would consider it distasteful to call a real rape video "pornography".
I can understand that reasoning tbh.
I thought it says/should say SCAM. Boy was I wrong...
Don't have open signups
My guess is that someone noticed that Lemmy doesn't yet have as robust moderation tools as Mastodon and decided they'd federate "NoNoNo"^1^ images all over the place just to be a troll
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spoiler CSAM
CP
Very illegal and naughty images of kids
Bruh I saw that shit. It was fucked up
Please clear your browser cache and take care of yourself in whatever you need to. I am so sorry you had to see it.
Thanks. Can’t unsee it. It was in my app (Memmy), but I should probably clear that cache.
This kind of issue is why pawb.social is not open registration. These low effort trolls cause a lot of problems, and i don’t want my server to be responsible for this crap.
Maybe Mozilla could help. I know they're trying to help make the net less of s toxic place and this is some serious thing.
What does CSAM exactly mean? (I understand the point of the meme completely just never heard of such abbreviation.
It's child porn, and as horrifying as you've been told it is. Some scumbag trolls were posting it on lemmy.world's memes sub and so .world finally decided to close open signups.
I thought about hosting my own instance, but now I'm definitely not......
I thought the worst that could happen was being ignored.... apparently not.
Thankfully I was not subscribed to that community so I wasn't hit by it, but wow it's a bad situation. I will certainly be more wary and keep an eye on things, ready to purge any images just in case