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Hey everyone! So I recently joined a very toxic reddit alternative (not this one) and there's a lot of hate speech on there that makes me want to scream into the void, but anyways. I decided to kind of "troll" people on this platform by asking what their unresolved trauma is and why they have such misdirected hatred toward one group or another. Wish me luck? Do you think we should "troll" more people with kindness?

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[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nah, a waste of time (unless you're actually finding it fun, then its just entertainment). Would you listen if someone did that to you? Do you think these people haven't heard it before?

[–] nerdyguy1990@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure these people haven't been shown an ounce of kindness

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Trolling is inherently not kind, nor is accusing them of having unresolved trauma. It's pretty insulting and usually untrue.

[–] nerdyguy1990@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean, technically it's not, everyone has some sort of trauma in some way.

[–] QueenLilac@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

Poking at the truama brings it back. It's bullying and not helpful.

[–] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

Life's too short for that nonsense. If you died tomorrow, you damn sure wouldn't be happy about spending today trolling people.

Toxic people are desperate for attention, don't give them it-- it only delays their rehabilitation.

[–] picoblaanket@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's good to be kind.

But if your intention is to 'troll', can you really help someone?

Say a person answers your question - "my dad was an alcoholic and my mom was a skitzo."

Okay - then what?

  • Are you gonna offer them months of sincere encouragement?
  • Do you have an idea for how to heal them?

If not, then it's a pretty shallow 'kindness'.

[–] nerdyguy1990@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I would say it's not their fault, they've had to deal with a lot, but nothing that's happened to them is their fault.

[–] picoblaanket@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I agree, it's not their fault.

The question I'm asking you is:

  • If your intention is to β€˜troll’, can you really help someone?
  • Are you gonna offer them months of sincere encouragement?
  • Do you have an idea for how to heal them?
[–] nerdyguy1990@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This might be counterintuitive, but breathwork has been known to help deal with trauma and work through trauma. I'd link them to a breathwork video if they were willing. If not, that's fine too.

[–] picoblaanket@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Hey I think that is a great idea. I agree that mental/spiritual freedom is reached through the breath.

That will be a great strategy and you can definitely help people who are ready to try it.

[–] picoblaanket@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Also, it's good if you have an urge to help people.

I'm just trying to talk with you about the best way to help someone overcome struggles.

[–] straightpeach@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have watched a video on youtube of someone playing dota 2 is one typical extremelly toxic match, but trying to have a positive attitude towards the players. In the end, they managed to get the player that was griefing to apologize. But being honest here, i don't think it's realistic to expect this outcome, even if you are very determined to being kind and having an overall positive attitude, the odds are against you in such environments. So i think there are more productive ways to help produce positive change in people's behaviors if we are smart about how we manage our efforts. In my opinion, a better approach overall would be to contribute to the creation and maintenace of less toxic environments and encourage people to switch or at least consider the alternatives.

[–] DerPapa69@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sorry for going a bit off topic, but the YouTuber you're talking about is SirActionSlacks, right? I just woke up from a dream concerning them at 4 in the night lol

[–] straightpeach@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Hm. No. It was this video by "elwono". But turns out there are many videos like this...

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

"Don't make me open a can of positivity on your ass."

[–] seahorse@midwest.social 4 points 2 years ago

I think the only kind of "kind trolling" is what Ken M does.

[–] SudoDnfDashY@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think, as long as you aren't being racist, sexist, homophobic, or joking about anything super serious ( Eg. Sexual assault), it is always moral to troll.

[–] QueenLilac@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

As long as it's harmless sillyness, then ya

[–] Owell1984@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

"Don't, Don't give me hope"

[–] Azure@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I don't even think that's trolling. If done well with listening to and responding compassionately to people, it might even be productive.

[–] dreamLogic@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I like the idea, but I agree with some of the points brought up by the other commenters. Unless you're a licensed psychologist or willing to go all the way with resolving their baggage, you're probably better off not "kindly trolling."