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What's the antithesis of Arrested Development, Firefly or The Big Lebowski? Those may never have 'found their audience' but over time seemed to recognised by everyone. What are the deep cuts that you liked but it feels like everyone has completely forgotten they even existed.

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[–] AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social 80 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Mr Robot is a damn masterpiece and I don't think I've ever participated in or heard a verbal discussion about it. But whenever it pops up in a thread or comment section there's always tons of people giving it praise.

[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I know the camera operator that shot Mr Robot. They created a completely new camera framing language. Breaking the norms and conventions. It really deserves more recognition than it got.

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 12 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I watched the first season and found it cringe.

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 11 points 11 months ago (3 children)

THANK YOU. I couldn't get past the god-damned teenage angst.

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[–] TrustingZebra@lemmy.one 10 points 11 months ago

First season is the best, it actually gets much worse after that. Shows tries extra hard to be edgy, graphic and "weird". It also becomes less and less about hacking, which was the most interesting part of the show.

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[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 60 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Blade Runner 2049. Extremely highly rated, just wasn't popular enough

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[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 59 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Better Off Ted is still my favorite sitcom. Corporate came along and tried to pick up the mantle, but I still prefer Ted.

[–] CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yes! I was thinking of this when I wrote the question. I feel like it was great and just totally disappeared.

I kept thinking about it's parody ads when all those 'we're in this together' ads kept playing during the start of the pandemic.

[–] chahk@beehaw.org 9 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Loved Better Off Ted. I still use Veronica's "I'm going though a tunnel..." line when speaking to someone in-person.

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[–] JoshuaQuest@sopuli.xyz 9 points 11 months ago

I would upvote this fifty times if I could. Better Off Ted was an absolute gem.

[–] spacemanspiffy@lemmy.world 54 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Not enough people understand how great of a show Bojack Horsman was.

[–] MrShankles@reddthat.com 12 points 11 months ago

Absolutely love that show. I kinda have to be in a good headspace to watch it though, cause it has definitely had a negative impact on my own depressive thoughts before. But that show can be so damn cathartic and just a great watch overall

[–] Blake@feddit.uk 10 points 11 months ago (4 children)

It’s popular and well-loved, but I agree - I always say that the penultimate episode of the final season is the greatest episode of television ever made.

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[–] kae@lemmy.ca 47 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I really enjoyed Equilibrium (2002). Is it derivative of 1984 and Fahrenheit 451? Absolutely. But so was V for Vendetta.

It's a B level film that still packs a punch today, particularly in a dystopian era of politics. The message of learning to connect continues to be relevant in a hyper connected, but shallow relational landscape.

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago

If I could get a version of the movie with the swish sounds removed then it'd be 10/10. I love that movie

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[–] Repelle@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Stargate. Had a long run with good viewership and multiple series, but has had very little cultural impact compared to trek/wars. Sg1 can stand up to any trek series

[–] Haus@kbin.social 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I always thought that Stargate: Universe was a Firefly situation. Maybe it was a touch below Battlestar Galactica, but it's not ludicrous to mention them in the same sentence.

[–] zemon@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago

Universe was my favorite of all of Stargate. It asked the best questions and showed how easy it is to die on a super advanced spaceship if there isn't fresh air and clean water. A shame it is discontinued.

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[–] Haus@kbin.social 34 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm going to throw out 2 series that were canceled early that I'm still salty about: The River that was on track to rival Lost in quality, and Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles which is another case where Summer Glau got screwed. Lena Heady has said if SCC didn't get canceled, she wouldn't have gotten Game of Thrones, which hits a lot different now than 10 years ago when GoT was good.

[–] charles@lemmy.ca 15 points 11 months ago

I loved SCC, it was such a great show that didn't get the attention it deserved.

[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 32 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Little Miss Sunshine

Hilarious indie comedy. I’ve never heard of anyone disliking it, but it also almost never gets brought up.

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[–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 32 points 11 months ago (5 children)

The good place. It's fairly short and starts out more of a comedy but evolves into a real ethics lesson. One that a lot of people need to hear.

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[–] zemon@lemmy.ml 29 points 11 months ago (5 children)

The Man from Earth is not forgotten, it has never been recognized. I've never seen such a great movie. The plot: a bunch of techers talking. That's it. But that talk is mindblowing.

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[–] Blake@feddit.uk 26 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Star Wars Galaxies. It really was really lightning in a bottle. No other game has come close to recreating the social player-driven sandbox experience that was SWG. This was the first MMORPG I played to feature a classless build system and I haven’t played another game which does it quite as well. Honourable mention goes to the Jump to Lightspeed expansion, truly the coolest expansion for any game I’ve ever experienced. We will never be able to recreate the experience of SWG again, the culture of gaming has changed too much. It was a game where you simply couldn’t solo the entire game or hang around with a dungeon finder or anything like that. You had to interact with other people - you had to kick back and hang out in bars together, you had to ask someone to help you change your hair colour or style, you had to ask doctors to heal you, or tailors to make clothes for you in a style you liked, or settle for off-the-rack fashions bought from player-owned stores. Players would also take the role of bounty hunters to hunt down criminal players for credits. You’d get to know a lot of the people you shared a server with, you’d remember who was fun to team up with, or who saved your ass, or who gave you some buffs, etc. and it really made the experience unforgettable.

[–] Tathas@programming.dev 15 points 11 months ago

Shit, close to 10 years after we stopped playing, my wife was playing WOW and someone was all, "Icarii... from Corbantis? I bought so many weapons off you, yours were the best!"

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[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 25 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Black books is brilliant and wildly underrated. Dylan Moran as a misanthropic book shop owner with an idiot for a sidekick

[–] lingh0e@lemmy.film 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Co-created by Graham Linehan who also did Father Ted and The IT Crowd. Shows about misanthropic priests and IT dept guys with idiots for sidekicks. It's a winning formula.

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[–] gongonzabarfarbin@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago (5 children)

HBO's Rome

That show had great scripts, great acting, and great visuals. I can't think of one area where the show had a serious deficiency. It was the quality of Game of Thrones before Game of Thrones. It just never caught on. I give it a rewatch once every few years.

RIP Ray Stevenson. 13!

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[–] DTFpanda@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

Deadwood.

I agree with the Mr. Robot take in this thread but nothing matches the infectious dialogue and energy that takes place throughout the entire Deadwood series. I never hear or see it talked about online or in my friend groups.

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[–] QuikxSpec@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Blake@feddit.uk 20 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Babylon 5. It’s not perfect by any means, but it’s a fantastic show, it was pretty popular back in the day, but since it ended it pretty much faded from memory for most people I think, compared to Stargate, for example.

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[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 20 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The first few Splinter Cell games should have had a more-lasting impact on gaming. Proper stealth gameplay in which lighting mattered for the first time (revolutionary), and the Spies vs. Mercs multiplayer still ranks among my favorite multiplayer games of all time. Then they made it into a (still good, but not the same) action series before letting it die completely.

[–] Blake@feddit.uk 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Honestly, I’d say that Splinter Cell is considered to have had a larger impact on gaming than it really did. For example, you claim that Splinter Cell was the first game where lighting mattered - at the very least, Thief: The Dark Project featured that very prominently, four years earlier, but I doubt that was even the first.

Splinter Cell basically just copied Thief and Metal Gear Solid’s homework and changed it up a bit, I’d say it’s inferior to both games, and yet is often considered to be one of the best games ever made.

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[–] Tedrow@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Battlestar Galactica. What a phenomenal series.

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[–] bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)
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[–] Blake@feddit.uk 18 points 11 months ago

Anarchy Online. The first sci-fi MMO, it was basically an unofficial Dune Online when it first released. Lots of very cool concepts, and is one of the deepest MMORPGs out there - personally the only MMO I know of with more depth is EVE Online. There are mysteries about the game mechanics that the player base don’t have an answer to even 22 years after the game’s release.

Comparable to EverQuest, Asheron’s Call, Dark Age of Camelot and even Star Wars Galaxies, all of which have a pretty thriving server emulation communities, nothing like that has ever really materialised for Anarchy Online, and while the official servers are still running, it seems like it’s only a matter of time before they’re turned off once and for all.

If you want to check it out, you can play the base game for free as long as you like with no real downsides except lack of access to expansion content. It’s very quiet though, compared to the hay day, and the economy is hilariously broken, but still an interesting peek into 23 year old MMORPG design.

[–] Bipta@kbin.social 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Death Note, specifically for non-anime folks. It's really the only anime that I think even anime haters can love.

While the quality is uneven, it's still the #37 show on IMDb last I checked, and most people have never even considered watching it.

No spoilers please, in case anyone who reads this decides to give it a try.

Also, Steins;Gate.

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[–] candle_lighter@lemmy.ml 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Vinland Saga taught me that being kind makes me a stronger man and having no hate for anyone, even those who have wronged me will make me a happier person.

It definitely did make a very big impact on many people, and it's where all the "i have no enemies" memes originate from. But I do wish It had an even larger impact than it did as it's an answer to the constant fighting and arguments that has taken over many of our lives.

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[–] Dubious_Fart@lemmy.ml 14 points 11 months ago (3 children)

There was a string of time between 2006 and 2009 where there were AMAZING new long format TV shows coming on... and promptly dying on the vine after a year due to bad advertising or ratings chasing.

Kings was a great TV show that deserved 4 more seasons.

Jericho Was an amazing show, that got dumped by Network after the first season.. and the fans were so infuriated that they crowdsourced funding to send over twenty tons of nuts to CBS in protest, Which forced them to greenlight a second season for like..5 or 6 episodes (first season was 22 episodes, as comparison) and left it hanging on a painfully huge cliffhanger. before cancelling it again.. Netflix even came forward and offered to buy the series and continue it on Netflix (Which all the actors were 100% on board with), and as a final FUCK YOU to the fans, CBS refused. They hated the show, tried to fuck over its second season hard, and hated the fans... and still refused to sell the rights to someone who would let it flourish.

God, typing this out has made me realize how irrationally angry I still am at CBS over the absolute fuckery they pulled with that show that I cant even think of the other shows at the moment.

Go watch Jericho. Its still a fucking awesome show, despite how much the c-suite hated it.

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[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

Game Cube- Eternal Darkness

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[–] mustbe3to20signs@feddit.de 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Person of Interest - it not only anticipated NSA mass surveillance (with some SciFi elements but anyway) but also ethical questions about AI, the singularity of human intelligence and human nature in general. All while being a well told crime show with comedic and heartwarming moments.

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[–] DTFpanda@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Great question btw, OP

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 12 points 11 months ago (3 children)

All the damn Holocaust documentaries.

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[–] StillNotAHero@artemis.camp 11 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again,

The Knick

Only two seasons and it ended before it ever had a chance to get bad. The acting is phenomenal, sets are well designed, the background music choices are very unique for what you would expect in that time period. But it works! Cannot recommended it enough! If you can find it or “acquire” online I think it would be worth your time.

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[–] Tathas@programming.dev 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Darklands (Video game)

It came out in 1992. Set in the 15th century Holy Roman Empire / Germany. It's a 4-character party isometric game that featuring real time combat, party members who aged and would die from old age, perma death, and fantastical elements based on historic folklore, Catholic saints, and alchemy.

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[–] state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Heroes. The first season was so damn good and then the last writers strike completely killed it.

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[–] DWin@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Beyond good and evil.

It's sales were poor but the reviews were great. A fantastic adventure game with a great story and a world that felt so incredibly lived in. It had a bunch of interesting mechanics that focused on stealth rather than confrontation.

Playing it now the scope feels pretty small but it's still a very tight experience.

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[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Most Terence Malik films I guess? He's popular amongst film buffs, but I feel like his reach should be broader than that.

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