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The GOP loves Big Government in health care — if it’s blocking abortion or trans care.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

one of the stupidest things in hindsight was when you'd talk to people about nationalizing healthcare you'd get bullshit like "you wouldn't want the government controlling your healthcare" and the reality is the fake "small government" advocates will absolutely control your healthcare. They just want to take a little off the top while they do it and they want to be able to deny you healthcare.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

Death panels are apparently okay as long as they're making decisions that benefit shareholders.

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 11 points 1 year ago

Always pissed me off because if you have to choose do you want an unelected corporation concerned primarily with profits controlling access to your healthcare or one where you have the ability to vote them out?

Just a moronic talking point all the way down.

[–] CoderKat@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah, the government controls your health care whether or not they're actually running the hospitals.

Plus, the GOP loves statements like that because they actively sabotage the government. While far from perfect, plenty of countries are capable of adequately running public health care systems, along with plenty of other government programs (roads, prisons, education, national defense, etc). The GOP's whole strategy is to purposefully break systems and then point at the broken system and claim that this is why we need to privatize it. Government run programs are just as good as the government as a whole, and the GOP are poisoning the US government.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 5 points 1 year ago

One of the core principles of Republican thought is "no one tells me what to do. I tell other people what to do." Everything else follows from that.

Well that and the "in groups for laws to protect but not bind, outgroups for laws to bind but not protect " thing.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It isn't about healthcare.

It isn't hipocritical.

They simply want to control you.

Especially if you are a woman.

[–] SpunkyBarnes@geddit.social 5 points 1 year ago

Mmm…and for certain populations control isn’t the goal, extermination is seen as the next logical step.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 1 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Wednesday night’s debate, which featured eight of the leading not-Donald-Trump candidates for the Republican nomination, spent little time on health care except for an extended exchange on abortion, covered in depth by Vox’s Rachel Cohen.

Abortion — which Fox moderator Martha MacCallum cast as a “losing” political issue for Republicans ever since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade — led to a contentious exchange in which former South Carolina Gov.

Transgender rights and the myriad conservative laws passed in the past few years to restrict access to gender-affirming care were referenced only obliquely in the debate but carried the same message.

More recently, most doctors have come to believe that such patients should be handled more humanely and affirmatively; permitting them to make a social gender transition (changing their name and pronouns, using a different bathroom, etc.)

“Trans advocates have pointed out that these bills fit comfortably within the larger GOP plan to seize minority power in an effort to force their preferred gender dynamics,” Burns wrote.

In one of the most striking tangents of the night, businessman Vivek Ramaswamy even advocated for reopening “mental health institutions” that have closed over the decades as the country sought to cut costs (starting in the Reagan administration) and tried — but has largely failed — to invest in more humane home- and community-based services.


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