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If you walk through your local Publix, you may have noticed a new sign reminding customers to keep their furry friends at home if they wish to shop.

Recently, these signs have been popping up in more Publix stores, saying that pets, including emotional support animals, are not allowed to enter.

While service animals are allowed, they must be under the control of their owners and the store asked that people keep them away from carts or baskets for sanitation purposes.

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[–] Nougat@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago

Hey guess what? Private business, neither you nor your non-service animal are protected classes. End of story.

[–] GlitzyArmrest@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Since when is this news? The grocery stores near me only allow service animals, and it's been that way for as long as I can remember.

[–] justhach@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Some shitheels have been bringing their dogs into non-dog spaces under the guise of being "an emotional support animal".

While there are some very specific instances where emotional support animals are a thing (PTSD, severe anxiety disorders, etc.) it did not become widespread until Karens started using it as loophole to bring their dogs into grocery stores, restaurants, and many other places where dogs werent allowed before.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As someone who has one, it really only covers you being able to rent a place if you have an esa

[–] justhach@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I did not know that. I guess most places don't, either, and decide to just let the animals in rather than deal with any discrimination lawsuits.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Probably. Hardware stores usually like dogs visiting.

Honestly though I think they just do it for more business.

[–] Ryumast3r@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Severe anxiety and PTSD can qualify as disabilities, and therefore can have a service animal.

A service animal is trained to perform a specific task that allows a person with a disability to perform normal daily activities. For PTSD and anxiety this action can be (but isn't limited to) detecting the onset of a panic attack and providing direct physical stimulation/grounding.

An emotional support animal is one that isn't trained for a task and whose presence makes the person with a disabling condition better (e.g. someone with anxiety is generally less anxious with their cat around).

ESA's are not protected under the Americans with Disabilities Act (or equivalent in most other countries) while service animals are.

Also, a service animal can be any type of dog. Yes, even a pug can be a service animal if it is trained to do a task. No, training does not have to be done by an expensive service.

[–] justhach@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Good point. I guess I should have made the distinction, thanks!

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

There are no specific instances recognized by the ADA in which emotional support animals are recognized as anything other than pets.

The PTSD dogs that sense an on coming attack, or scout the area for harmful stimuli are not ESA. They’re service animals. Period.

[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Have to remember, bulk of Publix are in Florida.

Know what else is in Florida?

Old people. And they take their purse dog terrier everywhere via golf cart.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

About damn time.

[–] Early_To_Risa@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

That rule seems incredibly fair.

My trader joes had a breaking point where shitty Karens and their dogs were getting yelled at by hipsters, while a Hawaiian shirt manager tried to defuse the situation.

Theres a sign there too.

[–] insomniac@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

How is this news?

[–] Millie@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

The only good thing that's been done in Florida this year. I'd love it if public spaces were a little more accessible for people with allergies.