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I opened Spotify this morning to be greeted by a modal popup with a "sponsored recommendation".

Why am I seeing ads if I'm already paying for the premium plan!? πŸ˜‘

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[–] rubikcuber@feddit.uk 136 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you're not paying you are the product. If you ARE paying you are STILL the product. This is how big tech works.

[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Basically every computer hardware manufacturer is collecting telemetry and sending it home. If you’re using MacOS or Windows, your OS is doing it aswell

[–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Or Android, or iOS, or a Chromebook, or whatever other OS you're using next year, if it isn't some sort of Linux/UNIX system... and even some of those might not be great, but at least you can find out.

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[–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 23 points 1 year ago

You become the product with name, address, and payment details attached to the account for improved demographic data for them to collect. Win win.

[–] QubaXR@lemmy.world 118 points 1 year ago

In the immortal words of James Stephanie Sterling "corporations don't just want some money. They want all of the money"

[–] trk@aussie.zone 79 points 1 year ago

Because why make money off you one way, when they can make money off you two ways?

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago

It seems you can turn it off by touching "what's this?" or "learn more" the next time you see one of these.

Really shitty that they don't even put this as a setting though.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The lesson is that corporations will take, take, take no matter what. They will never honor any kind of social contract, and will always abuse anyone and everyone for profit to the maximum extent they are able.

So stop letting them take advantage of you.

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[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Might I add, I hate the way every user-facing UI has devolved into the Youtube Shorts / TikTok "doomscrolling" swipe-UI now. There seems to be absolutely not a single braincell left in UI development to even consider the actual use case of the interface.

It's all just:

  1. Monkey see UI to build.
  2. Moneky see TikTok big.
  3. Monkey do.
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[–] theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People defend intrusive advertising by appealing to some sort of social contract (ie you suffer through these things in order to get Spotify or whatever for free) but it's not a social contract if the platform holds all the cards

[–] Kinglink@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also we getting Spotify for free, if we're buying premium.

The problem is you can't "buy" products any more. Companies see that as interest, and then start to throw additional advertising to see how much they can get away with. Fuck that shit.

They've also run almost any way to do it outside of their ecosystems. If I want to listen to happy hardcore music, I have to hope spotify has it, but it's rare to find that on most playlists, I'd have to go spend thousands of dollars for the same experience that Spotify offers, and that's to own every track I'm even curious about.

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[–] Stern@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (11 children)

"What are you gonna do? NOT use us? lmao owned." - Spotify

[–] Mannivu@feddit.it 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Deezer, Apple Music, YouTube Music, Tidal waving furiously Pick me! Pick me!

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[–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago

no, you pay spotify so they can give Joe Rogan money to make up bullshit every day.

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What I really love about commercials is that if I click on them and order a life time subscription of whatever product they're selling, I'm still gonna get the same commercials.

[–] Misconduct@startrek.website 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Or even worse you'll get more. It applies to everything too. I got a vacuum a while ago and Amazon keeps recommending more. Who tf is out there buying multiple vacuums? Why does Amazon think that someone who spent $50 on a shop vac is now in the market for a $700 Dyson? For stealing so much of our data they sure are shit at advertising... Which is supposed to be the whole excuse for collecting data in the first place lmao

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[–] chomskysfave5@lemmy.film 21 points 1 year ago (5 children)

About a year ago I switched from Spotify to a local library with the Symfonium music player on my phone and Rhythmbox on the PC. I have not once looked back.

Plus, you get the satisfaction of growing a collection that can last forever.

I highly recommend it !

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[–] doggle@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I dropped Spotify when they started plastering my home screen with ads for podcasts that I didn't want to listen to. If there had even just been a way to hide them after the fact, but no. I guess they really needed to justify the deal with Joe Rogan.

[–] RanchOnPancakes@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You paid yes but... what if MORE money?

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[–] saltedFish@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Advertisements are now pretending to be recommendations

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[–] mekkmekk@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

delete Spotify. it's toxic

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[–] jungekatz@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

Since they believe that they are the landlord and you are a tenant using their product so ... !

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I recently tried a new feature they added that would add recommended stuff into my already made playlists. I didn't like it and turned it off in the settings, but it still persists in basically advertising music that is completely unrelated to what I have. Like I shouldn't be hearing fucking TikTok by Kesha in my 90's grunge mix. It's all the more infuriating that it continues to act as if it is on when I turned it the fuck off.

[–] sab@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

For being so sophisticated, it's incredible how dumb the Spotify algorithm is.

For me somehow it decided Pink Moon by Nick Drake was my favourite song. At first it just threw it in the mix randomly when albums finished playing and it went on to play suggestions, but after a few times of me not skipping it it went ballistic. Now every time an album finishes it goes straight to Pink Moon. No matter what Spotify radio I try playing it will be Pink Moon. I keep skipping it and it keeps coming back. I don't have a problem with Nick Drake I just can't stand that song any longer. I never once played that song intentionally.

In the end I just cancelled my subscription.

[–] PumaStoleMyBluff@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I canceled after the first time they did this with the "Drake takeover" in 2018. Their customer support claimed it wasn't advertisement, lmao.

[–] nickiam2@aussie.zone 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I just cancelled Spotify and switched to Tidal a few months ago exactly because of shenanigans like this. I was getting popups to look at recommended eBooks that I had to buy.

That was it for me and I cancelled immediately. Between the ads and the countless bugs and issues I had while using their app, glad I made the change. Been a premium member with Spotify for almost 10 years.

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[–] AceQuorthon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Buy CDs from the artists you like, and then rip them to .flac using Exact Audio Copy! 😁

[–] ShunkW@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I use Bandcamp and usually will wait for the days they give artists 100% of the revenue and buy everything I've been waiting on. You get a flac download so you can secure your purchase in case the site shuts down later, but you also have access to streaming.

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[–] WillyWonksters@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I stopped using Spotify after I noticed that a song's share URL contains unique tracking elements. Then they started trying to lock down the podcast market, which reaffirms that leaving was the right choice.

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[–] MetalAirship@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Unpopular opinion - in Spotify (and Spotify ONLY) I actually like that it does this. I like discovering new music and Spotify seems to have really good recommendations sometimes. Sure they collect a lot of listening data - but how else could they give good recommendations if they don't know what you like?

[–] jpeps@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I agree with you, but you may be missing the point - this recommendation is sponsored, so likely it wouldn't have been recommended unless the artist paid.

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[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

I pay for Amazon Prime music premium or some shit, and about a month ago they started putting an ad up literally every time I log in telling me to subscribe to super-duper premium or whatever the fuck they call it. Seriously guys? How about no?

[–] jack@monero.town 8 points 1 year ago

Install ViMusic on Android and all your problems are gone. https://f-droid.org/packages/it.vfsfitvnm.vimusic/

[–] stalfoss@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You can disable it pretty easily in the settings. I wish more apps let you opt out of ads so easily.

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[–] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Soon it will be pay for Spotify on the same tier but also hear ad's.

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[–] Misconduct@startrek.website 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I stopped using Spotify when I paid for premium a few years ago And they kept interrupting me to remind me that I was listening ad-free lol

[–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's super weird; I've had a sub to Spotify for years and never got that.

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[–] Bongles@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Unrelated service, but I use Walmart for their grocery delivery, which I pay for and I have a Walmart+ subscription. In the "my items" section, the section specifically for things I have already purchased before, they recently added sponsored items.

Yes, it's clearly marked but for fucks sake Walmart I'm trying to just get more of stuff I've bought before. You have pages and pages of sponsored stuff elsewhere, leave my items alone!

[–] beta_tester@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Navidrome may help

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Me listening to Joe Rogan in my car:

β€œThis episode is brought to you by Athletic …”

β€œAaaargh! I pay Spotify! They gave you eight and eight figure contract! Why the fuck are there ads??”

[–] DevilOfDoom@lemmy.one 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's an easy way to fix that. Stop listening to Joe Rogan.

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