Big companie/rich people - absolutely
Small businesses/regular folks - nah
this post was submitted on 09 Aug 2023
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Robin Hood?
Oh interesting!
I immediately read that as:
Big companies - "hell yeah we will steal from people"
Normal people/sm business owners - "no thank you, we don't want to steal, or be stolen from"
That matches current statistics already since something like 75% of theft is wage theft in America.
Nah, I would keep the treasures for myself π
No. My behavior is derived from ethics, not from law.
What if the company you're stealing from is ethically bankrupt?
Like Adobe / Microsoft / Google / Meta / ... maybe most large enterprises ? No question about it.
downloading software isnt theft, soooo unless you are breaking into their offices its not really stealin from them.
Warez piracy is anyway not "stealing" since you're not taking the digital item away, tis something which can be infinitely copied.
Meta, Google and Microsoft sellβs hardware though. Not too sure about adobe
I would download so many cars
I would steal your heart, OP.
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No, I wouldn't want anyone to steal from me so why would I want to steal from anyone else?
Not from people that earned what they have. Corporations mmmm idk.
I would never spend a single dollar at Walmart again if stealing was consequenceless
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The prevailing morality is to follow an arbitrary set of rules, mostly made by and for a class of people who have dominated the political sphere for most of human history. E.g. "If this will violate Ownershipβ’ of a thing as defined by law, you shouldn't do it."
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Another kind of morality is to consider the effects of an action. E.g. "If this makes someone's life noticeably harder or more miserable, you shouldn't do it."
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Another kind is to look at the social relations. E.g. "If this enriches yourself at the cost of someone who is already worse off than you, you shouldn't do it."
What source of moral code do you subscribe to?
Kant's categorical imperative: "Act only according to that maxim whereby you can at the same time will that it should become a universal law."
No. Theft goes against my personal ethics and religious values.
No. When I do something I'm not wondering if it's against the law, I'm wondering how this affects someone else.
Does it affect Tim Cook if you steal from Apple? Thereβs obviously a difference from situation to situation here
I wouldn't feel bad about stealing groceries since my local grocer admitted to price fixing and has jacked the prices to an inhumane degree. But like from a person or a small business or something, no.
I would collect taxes if I held the power of physical violence over a community. All taxation is theft, amiright?
But seriously, stealing is a crime because prevailing thought within the community is that taking something that someone else has a claim on is wrong. If the prevailing thought was that it was not wrong, it wouldn't be against the law, but we also would call it something else... Like taxation.
That is such a stupid take. Tax money is spend on things you use
Well tbf if someone stole my wallet at gunpoint but used a small portion of the money stolen to buy me lunch I'd still be pretty mad about him spending the rest of my money paying off his Haliburton credit card.
I agree. Guess I should have put a /s on the slogan. But it's still taking a portion of something that is technically owned by one person or group for the betterment of the community.
Some people see that as theft and so would call it stealing even though there isn't a law against it. My point is that this question is asked from a particular vantage point and what constitutes theft and the law may be different from one person to another.
If you count software piracy, then yes. In fact, I'll admit to having done it within the past year (without giving specific dates for obvious reasons).
My boss squeezes 3 person's worth of labor out of me and doesn't even pay me for 1 with no qualms at all.
I would only steal stuff from greedy corporations, not small companies that need money
Double it and take it from the next person?