It's cost if doing business for them though, the "fines" are a farce, just protection money paid to a gang.
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they really need to start with forfeiting all profits. and then maybe a percentage-based fine on top of that.
make it really painful, in the only place these people can be hurt.
How about sending the people responsible to prison?
it's more complicated when it's an entire corporation. Corporations only care about the bottom line so they'll let their minions take the blame. The only real solution is to hurt them in the wallet enough that they have to play by the rules to make a profit.
Not really. Put the C suite in prison and I'm sure the next crew will think twice. They can try and throw underlings under the bus but we don't have to accept that. The buck stops at the top.
Can't put people into prison for things they didn't do, and demonstrating RICO is a lot harder than it sounds. I guarantee you, you start going after their profits and making them take losses, the behavior stops immediately, and across the board.
they'd just get another C-Suite.
But they did do something? They ran a company in an illegal fashion. If they didn't act directly they were negligent. Either way, lock them up.
They always defend their ridiculous income by saying that it's proportional to their level of responsibility? Then the board is responsible for everything that happens in the company unless they can pin point exactly who did what under whose guidance.
Send the whole corporation to prison since they have legal rights same as I do (but I can't afford to enforce mine).
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They need to start throwing these criminal fucks in prison.
They'll just pass it along to the customers though, that would have to be made very illegal first.. and even then they'd probably do it anyway and blame it on the tellers. In the sea of illegal things Wells Fargo has already done that wouldn't even make a ripple.
Can't pass anything to the customer if your business got closed by the authorities.
I feel like they need to apply charges like conspiracy and fraud against the individuals responsible. When I worked in national security oriented roles, the standard response when being asked to break the law (eg reveal classified info) was to say “I could do that, but I look really bad in orange.”
If the individuals being asked to commit violations and crimes were held individually responsible more often, people would be less likely to do it.
White collar crime costs the economy far more than other kinds of crime, and that’s due to a lack of enforcement caused by misaligned priorities.
Fines as a percentage of revenue. A big percentage. That’ll stop this nonsense.
Private speech is never the problem and should absolutely be encouraged as a human right. The problem here is them avoiding regulators and should get fucked for that alone, that's the crime here. Signal and Whatsapp should not be mentioned at all and this is an attempt to push "encryption bad" narrative.
Yeah, the issue is evading records keeping requirements. The issue is not encrypted communications.
These articles make me pucker my asshole. Like it could be that thing that sends us down that slippery slope.
I work for a large American bank working under a consent order from the SEC to address this exact problem, and it's my job to find and implement the solutions. I can say with absolute confidence that weakening platform integrity is absolutely not a solution being pushed for any of this - not least because the platform owners will 100% not cooperate with any attempt to do so.
I worked at a firm that was regulated and audited by the SEC. The standard lesson from the compliance department was always to have potentially problematic conversations out loud instead of in email or Slack. They never needed encryption to avoid regulators.
I see this as a "yes, Signal is secure, look, they used it and are getting away with it too" narrative.
It’s always Wells Fargo with the law breaking.
Of course it's Wells Fargo!
Typical Wells Fargo
Chump change for banks. Cost of doing business already sitting with the accounts team.
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U.S. regulators on Tuesday announced a combined $549 million in penalties against Wall Street firms that failed to maintain electronic records of employee communications.
The Securities and Exchange Commission announced charges against 11 firms for “widespread and longstanding failures” to maintain records, including by allowing employees to use unsupervised side channels such as messaging apps WhatsApp and Signal, the regulator said.
Wells Fargo was the biggest U.S. bank cited Tuesday in the sweeping actions.
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The banks have heavily invested in a cross platform chat app that's (in its own words) bridging the gap.
Just wait for the consumer version ready to be pushed by governments.
Good. Bastards.
That’s chump change