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I don't really have a name or genre but it's certain games like 40K, Fallout, Civ/HoI/all the other ones.

Am I the only one to notice these weird trends of political distribution? Is it just me?

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[–] RedCat@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

As far as 40K is concerned I think it mostly comes down to the main faction of the franchise being a hyper religious, fascist nightmare and GW shitting the bed when it comes to presenting any real alternatives. Every faction is at least a little evil or extremely selfish. This leads to the very fucking evil Imperium coming of as "one of many" or "not THAT bad compared to Chaos".
However, I don't think this was the result of intentionally propping up fascists as cool and good and more the result of corporate ghouls not getting satire and as a result removing those elements from the narrative until we have arrived at the current point in time. Where we are told by GW that the Imperium is a fascist shitshow and is surviving DESPITE being so shitty. While pretty much all of the novels are portraying the Imperium as surviving BECAUSE they are so shitty. If any of the other factions were definitely good this wouldn't be an issue.

[–] Tar_alcaran@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Where we are told by GW that the Imperium is a fascist shitshow and is surviving DESPITE being so shitty. While pretty much all of the novels are portraying the Imperium as surviving BECAUSE they are so shitty.

Much of that is because 90% of the novels is written from the perspective of the Imperium. Of course they're going to say "Our brutal repression and murder of tens of millions was required to prevent billions dying to chaos" instead of "maybe if we offered some minor quality of life improvement instead of death-by-factory, people wouldn't flock to chaos all the time".

[–] ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Never played 40k but omg hearing the lore and descriptions of the game make it sound kinda fun, but im broke no PC lol

[–] Moonguide@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I just started to get into 40k, if you like reading, Dan Abnett's First and Only is a good introduction to the world. It doesn't expo dump you, and has a nice enough plot to follow.

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

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[–] Bak@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

You wouldn't download a computer

Also Imperium directly fuels chaos on every level, so lesser evilism is piss poor explanation in this case. Old lore directly blamed chaos rising on humanity as the most chaotic species, and even looking at current setting it's still true (just not said) because 99% of people and culture of chaos have human origins.

And just chaos was not to make Imperium look good, so Tyranids arrived, purest devouring swarm trope possible (predictable radlib reaction - stan Genestealer Cults, still will eat and kill everything, but with revolutionary aesthetics please ignore literal cult and brainwashing). Plus Orks despite all shenanigans are nothing but organic von Neumann machines. Plus Necrons, thankfully somewhat retocnned to not be just zombie apocalypse crossed with terminator but still very close to it.