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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted clever little truths, hidden in daily life.

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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I will say this, I can’t think of a thing Jesus says in the Bible that isn’t pretty based. He prioritized pragmatism over rules and protocol, compassion and understanding over judgment, generosity over greed, forgiveness over scorn, acts over words. Everyone following his death like Paul seem to be the ones that start to miss the point.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The desire to control people who follow compassionate teachings is what turned sound advice into the dogma we see today. It’s an unfortunate history, not unique to Christianity.

[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's the institutionalisation of religion that's a problem.
If everyone would just focus on finding their own connection with god/the universe/whatever, nobody would have a problem.

Fuck churches and using religion for politics.
That's why we have the separation of church and state at least - although not enough and currently it's backpedaling...

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

That's why we have the separation of church and state

Weeps in Utahn

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Umm there's a few

When he spoke of division instead of peace (Matthew 10:34-36, Luke 12:51-53)

"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."

Acting like a gate keeper of Salvation (John 14:6)

"I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

Slavery and servanthood (Luke 12:47-48)

"The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows."

Gentiles as ‘Dogs’ (Matthew 15:21-28)

When a Canaanite woman asks for help, Jesus initially replies: "It is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to the dogs."

There's a few more, but I'm too lazy to keep going. The problem with the bible is it tried to be too many things at once. Especially trying to sell the concept of fear and love in one, which isn't possible.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Most of that was written hundreds of years later (and rewritten several times since), so who knows what was added later for religious control purposes.

He could have sat around all day stoned off his nut.

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I like stoned Jesus. Weed stoned, not biblical punishment stoned that is.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I agree he said a lot of cool stuff for sure but ultimately he was an apocalyptic preacher. I think it's immoral to tell people they need to accept your God or you'll go to hell, personally, so that's one not cool thing.

“Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved; whoever does not believe will be condemned.”

Pretty messed up given that belief is not something you can even really choose.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

There's no such thing as hell in the Bible. Jesus said sinners would cease to exist.

[–] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Matthew 13:42

37 He answered, “The one who sowed the good seed is the Son of Man. 38 The field is the world, and the good seed stands for the people of the kingdom. The weeds are the people of the evil one, 39 and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels.

40 “As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age. 41 The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. 42 They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life.

For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on them.

If you're pious, you live forever in heaven. If you're sinful, you die. No eternal torment, no hanging out with demons. Dead.

[–] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

While forgiveness is good, I’m not sure forgiving all sin just for following Jesus is so great.

It’s literally thoughts are more important than acts. I’m not convinced.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Drag doesn't understand the relevance. We're talking about whether hell exists

In Christianity it typically exists. The support for it in scripture isn’t very strong though.

Hell is arguing about the existence of hell on Lemmy, I guess.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not a biblical scholar but my understanding was there was biblical basis for it. Especially mentioned by Jesus as he was an apocalyptic preacher. Something like this sounds like it fits the bill pretty well:

The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Like I said though I'm not a biblical scholar. Although I'm not sure simply being denied an infinite reward is that much better really. It's still effectively an infinite punishment for something you have no control over.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The closest thing to hell in the Bible is shoal. And that's just the word for the ground people are buried in.

Hell came long after either Bible was canonized.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What's the whole weeping and gnashing of teeth thing, is that something different to hell?

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 2 points 3 weeks ago

That's the rapture. That hasn't happened yet. Jesus is describing what'll happen on Earth.

36 Then he left the crowd and went into the house. His disciples came to him and said, “Explain to us the parable of the weeds in the field.”

37 He answered, “The one who sowed the good seed is the Son of Man. 38 The field is the world, and the good seed stands for the people of the kingdom. The weeds are the people of the evil one, 39 and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels.

40 “As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age. 41 The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. 42 They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Whoever has ears, let them hear.

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago

Yup. Born and die in a place where it wasn't possible to believe because knowledge hadn't spread yet? Believe it or not straight to hell.

[–] Forester@pawb.social 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Fucking paulists ruined Christianity

[–] DadVolante@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

I agree. His motivations were purely political in order to keep people in line when he realized this new movement wasn't going away any time soon.

Which is why on one hand we have Jesus calling for freedom of oppression, while Paul was telling slaves to obey their masters, even the cruel ones

Religion has always been politically motivated to control people.