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I get it - Google sucks for a lot of reasons. Unfortunately, they own the largest video sharing platform, and it's difficult to avoid. Many people opt to use and share links to 3rd party web interfaces that greatly de-enshittify the experience (Piped/Invidious), and I'm glad for that and that those projects exist.

That said, when sharing a YT video, please just share the canonical YouTube link rather than a link to a random Piped/Invidious instance and let people handle using a 3rd party interface themselves.

Why?

Most People Who Care Probably Already Have a Mechanism in Place

People who want to use 3rd party YT frontends probably already have a mechanism in place to deal with that: integrated Lemmy client support, browser plugin to automatically redirect YT links to their preferred instance, mobile apps that handle YT links, annoying bot, etc.

You're Forcing Someone to Use Their Non-Preferred Instance

With YouTube having a relatively small number of domains, it's infinitely easier to detect YouTube links and automatically/transparently re-write them to a Piped/Invidious instance of the user's choice than the other way around.

It's much more difficult to do the opposite and account for all the random Inv/Piped instances in the wild, and there's no way to really identify them by URL alone (aside from a big list which is difficult to keep up-to-date or be all-inclusive).

The Invidious/Piped server you're linking to may work well for you, but could be on the other side of the planet for someone else. It may also be unreliable, slow, overloaded, or otherwise sub-optimal for sharing links with a wide audience.

Combined, this makes it much more difficult for people to use a local or preferred Invidious/Piped instance while also contributing to a degraded experience.

Boulevard of Broken ~~Dreams~~ Links

Invidious/Piped are in a constant cat and mouse game against Google. In between Google making a change to break Invidious/Piped and those projects implementing and deploying workarounds, we end up with a lot of non-functional links that need to be re-written to another instance or back to YT. That's not even accounting for Invidious/Piped instances that shut down/go permanently offline. Again, it's infinitely easier to re-write a YT link to another Inv/Piped instance than detect every possible Inv/Piped link and redirect those.

Conclusion

So, while people's desire to de-Google is laudable, please be aware that it can also be counterproductive. Sharing the canonical YT link allows the link to avoid dying due to numerous circumstances while also making it much easier for Lemmy clients, browser plugins, etc to use the user's preferred instance to avoid a degraded experience.

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[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 58 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Also: By using the plain YouTube link (without "?si=" etc. parameters), you can see crossposts and duplicates.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 9 points 3 days ago

Yes, and avoid the youtu.be short links for the same reason.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Didn't a recent lemmy update start stripping those out automatically? I seem to remember reading smt like this

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 4 points 3 days ago
[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Didn’t a recent lemmy update start stripping those out automatically?

Maybe. My home server is still on 0.19.3 because reasons: https://lemmy.world/post/23471887

Personally, I think that the new features outweigh the regressions but I'm not going to jump instances all the time.