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Nah, no chance a cybertruck would have the same flaw. No chance at all, am I right?
It has a whole new set of flaws that result in the same outcome.
Saw one in daylight for the first time yesterday. They're so big they don't fit in Costco's ridiculously oversized parking stalls.
Yet their bed is so small it doesn't fit an average Costco shopping haul.
They're the size of a F150. Smaller actually.
Is that bad? (Actual question) I mean the f-150 is probably the most popular truck model ever. So I wouldn't think it's an unfavorable comparison.
I don't think it's bad that its smaller than a F150. People like to harp on it though as if it's this massive monstrosity like OP without realizing it's the size of the most popular truck. I see F150's parked at Costco just fine all the time.
Should all trucks be smaller? Sure, maybe, but I wouldn't really hold the CT's size against it. It's also much shorter than other trucks at least at the front which is better for safety in general (even if you think the Cybertruck isn't safe, being shorter is still safer). I've seen some trucks where their front flat grill is up to my neck. It's kinda ridiculous.
The being made of steel and featuring sharp angles makes the whole 'being lower is safer point' moot. It would cut people in half if it hits them at speed.
We'll have to see what the impact damage from that actually ends up being after collisions, but with the lower front and sloped hood/windshield, there's the possibility of a better chance of being maimed from the steel and thrown onto the windshield, than rammed into, knocked over, and then driven over by a flat high front.
Some people would choose maimed over the more likely dead from the tall flat fronts. But some people might not want the maiming it will possibly do either.
If it isn't enough to throw you onto the windshield though, then you'll be maimed AND run over ;)
Edits for clarity, but also, I've wondered if this lower bumper is to reduce the SS impact and try to get you onto the hood? Also for all trucks with adjustable suspensions, I think a great pedestrian feature would be to drop the front immediately upon detection of imminent pedestrian impact. I don't know how fast they could lower it in an emergency, but any amount should help.
It looked bigger, and given everything else about it the turn radius probably sucks too, so might as well be huge. I'd give credit if it was due, and was actually excited when Tesla first announced they'd do a truck...thinking of all the possibilities that everyone else thought. What we got was not that.
In case you would miss an edit...
Re: One of the best turning radius due to 4 wheel steering
Turning Circle from Motor Trend
F150 Lightning 48.0 ft
Rivian 44.9 ft
CT 43.5 ft
Edit (not from MotorTrend but GMs site): Silverado EV - 42.16 ft (also has 4 wheel steering)
For the Rivian that's it's turning diameter not radius.
I commented on your other reply, but you've done something wrong with your units, we can discuss there if needed rather than split the conversation over two.
I posted above that the cybertruck's turning radius is 60% worse than the F-150s.
And is 15% worse than the massive Hummer EV.
made a new comment with more details to avoid a missed edit
F-150 has a turning radius of 27.3 feet, length of 232 inches, width of 80 inches. Hummer EV has a turning radius of 37 feet, length of 206 inches, width of 93.7 inches Rivian R1T has a turning radius of 22.3 feet, length of 217 inches width of 81.8
Cybertruck has a turning radius of 43.5 feet, length of 231 inches, width of 77 inches.
Okay, so the length "advantage" it has over the F-150 is roughly 0.4% of their length.
It is very slightly thinner than its competition, but its turning radius is 18% larger than its nearest competitor, which is the absolutely massive Hummer EV
In compairson to the f-150, it is 60% larger, and only has a bed capacity of 52.2 cubic feet(within the roller door) compared to the F150s 52.8 cubic feet.
Cybertruck bed capacity made from calculating the area of the bed that fits inside the roller door and tailgate.
I think you might be mixing up units for the turning radius between the f150/rivian and the CT
MotorTrend has the turning circle listed as
F150 Lightning 48.0 ft
Rivian 44.9 ft
CT 43.5 ft
Meanwhile the GM site says the Silverado EV is 42.16ft
So your 2 numbers for F150/Rivian aren't the same measurement as the CT 43.5
Edit: Also the size comparison wasn't about being an advatange or not, it was the person mocking the CT size when it was smaller than the countries best selling vehicle and favorite truck.
Edit: And worth noting that the CT, Silverado and Hummer all have the better turning circles because of their 4 wheel steering. The hummer is 25 inches shorter, leading to its best score. The silverado is a couple inches longer, and has a tighter circle which is a nice job.
You can look up every review on youtube for the cybertruck and it has the absolute worst turning radius of the lot, and they show it actually failing. I stand by the numbers i found.
This is a great comment to post on confidently incorrect.
In case you need help... it's all the way at the bottom. You fucked your units up.
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2024-tesla-cybertruck-vs-rivian-r1t-vs-ford-f-150-lightning-comparison-test-review/
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what's a parking stall
Having multiple models share the same defect is just being efficient!
Especially since musk does it's own safety testing right?
Probably even MORE likely, since these trucks are way less safety regulated than normal cars.
I mean yeah, it's pretty unlikely, or we'd probably have seen more of these fires already.
My money is on the owner doing/transporting something stupid. Stupider than buying a cybertruck, I mean
What was the ignition source though? Gas and firworks usually dont just light themselves?
After having read the article, it looks like it was probably intentional
Well, it's certainly a different beast. Being a pickup, the chassis is higher off the ground than other teslas. The problem with other teslas was insufficient armor on the underbody, so road debris could puncture through the vehicle and damage batteries. On a pickup there's both more room for (essentially) an armor plate and any debris would have to punch much higher up.
All and all, these kinds of battery fires should be much less likely to occur on a truck than on a sedan.
Edit: Upon actually watching that press conference from the sheriff and fire marshall, it seems clear to me from the language they're using, that they're treating this explosion as likely an intentional act. And I have to say, there's a lot of damning evidence in that truck bed.
The battery pack also has a substantial amount of room between the bottom and the cells. It was so much, that at first people thought that was room for the double stack battery they had originally planned, but it turned out to not be enough space, and is just there to vent gas if cells catch on fire, and more room before a puncture during offroading can reach a cell.
It wouldn't have been the first time.
https://www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2024/12/31/cybertruck-catches-fire-dekalb-county-tesla-dealership/
That frame from the video of the vehicle looks like the cabin was undamaged. Good news for CT drivers if that is so