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Alec wasn't filming at the time. Keanu went through actual training to handle firearms on screen which I think should be the minimum. The fact that Keanu made 4 movies in that series without killing anyone proves it can be done safely. In the circumstances of filming I would be unreasonable to expect every one of the 4 rules to be followed at all times, but breaking every single one of those rules all at once should not happen. The bare minimum that Alec can and should've done is inspect the gun to see if it's loaded, and that it's loaded with "safe" rounds. I mean that's the first thing I do!
Also I own several guns, try not to make assumptions.
You can own several guns. But have you worked on any films?
There is a long list of things that should not have happened on that set. But I don't think Alec should have been charged. His role of producer has little to do with that too, unless he was specifically involved in the hiring and firing of employees. It's not like he was the sole producer. Those responsibilities weren't his.
It really isn't, though.
Insurance doesn't allow actors to adjust weaponry on set.
So Insurance contract supercedes gun safety handling?
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On a movie set, yes.
The people who are licensed and insured to ensure gun safety are the ones responsible for it.
Im not sure why you're hellbent on making it seem like all of the rules for gun safety on set werent followed.
I am telling you that a person handling a gun is responsible for that gun, this is gun ownership 101 and it doesn't get overridden but by contract law or set hierarchy.
The only reason this argument worked here is because prosecutor decided so, full stop
People can make up their own minds why tje prosecutor do this for a rich "influencer" lol
Quick hypothetical.
If every actor on set messed with the blanks they were given do you think there would be more gun related deaths on the set of a movie, or less?
Keep in mind there have only been two deaths since 1993, brandon lee and this incident.
We are discussing legal liability both personally and head guy on set.
Alec fucked on both levels.
What facts you are trying to inject here are second or third order operation tonthe discussion of alecs Liability
There should be some sort of trial, with a judge, prosecutors, and defense for this so we can get to the bottom of it.
Cool thing is that he wasn't just an actor on set, he was a producer as well. Which entails more responsibility.
Considering she was head armorer and assistant armorer in other movies, im not sure why he would think she wasnt a qualified individual.
Its not like he hired a random person on the street.
It was announced by an AD.