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Personally, I just don't think Baldwin is the one who deserves the charge. There were people on set responsible for ensuring his gun wasn't loaded. Those people failed in their job.
The armoror was sentenced awhile ago.
As she should been but that doesn't resolve issue of alecs Liabit as the guy who didn't murder and the guy in charge of the set.
These parasites love taking profit but they are never there to take any negative consequences
Ok. Well, enjoy your holidays.
Folks really wanted Baldwin's balls over this because he was Trump on SNL. A large part of this whole case was disguised political animus.
But wasn't Baldwin not even supposed to be shooting at the person he killed? If he had shot someone he was supposed to fire a blank at, I understand. Aren't you supposed to practice gun safety even with replicas? Don't point at anything you're not willing to shoot?
He was following the directions of the director and everybody involved, including the woman who died, agreed to do the scene. She wasn't just some random person on set, she was behind the camera because she was the director of photography.
If she didn't feel the scene was safe to film, she had the right to say no to using a realistic prop. This is an obviously sad incident. But Manny people were found or pleaded guilty to the events. Baldwin just isn't I've of them. Actors can't be expected to be experts and have to defer to experts on set all the time.
Ah I see. That makes sense then. I didn't know she was behind the camera when she got shot.
I think a lot of the confusion is that they were between takes.
He was drawing the weapon and rehearsing what he was going to do as they were discussing the next take and she was watching him through the camera. But the shot they were going for was most definitely him pointing the gun at the camera. The AD, I believe, was the one that handed him the gun without verifying it was cleared.
Baldwin is guilty of putting trust in the people around him doing their jobs correctly.
Wasn't he a producer for this movie? I think one of the arguments against him was that he had some responsibility over the filming including safety. If there is a safety incident, he's somewhat responsible.
I'm of 2 minds about this. On one hand, I think he's not at fault, the armorer is. As long as he hired a qualified armorer with a good safety record, what more could he have done? On the other hand, if we hold the higher ups more responsible for safety issues, they will put in place better safety controls to reduce risk.
I think that argument gets made by people who don't really know what producers do. It could be anything from managing the people on set to putting their name on it for cred. I'm this car, Baldwin was partially responsible for the story.